Liliana's Steward
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pauper Legal
Pauper Duel Commander Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Liliana's Steward

Creature — Zombie

: Sacrifice Liliana's Steward: Target opponent discards a card. Activate this ability only at any time you could cast a sorcery.

jarncards on Dead WOMan Walking

1 year ago

Fiend Artisan is green

I think Sidisi, Undead Vizier is awful unless you use a lot of reanimate effects, it's just so expensive to tutor. Geth, Lord of the Vault is crazy strong, but he's a totally different deck most of the time. I'd dump Liliana's Steward too. You and one other player go down a card, putting the rest of the table ahead of you by one card, but they also get to choose, so you're never going to get the card you want out of their hand.

Hobbling Zombie and other cards like it, like Putrid Goblin are excellent at keeping attacks away from you while you build up your board. and the pseudo revival effects let you abuse a lot of other zombie mechanics. Butcher Ghoul, and Geralf's Messenger or Doomed Dissenter are ok too. i wouldnt use Sightless Ghoul though. They are all better than Reassembling Skeleton though. Keep Relentless Dead. Im not sure if they make the cut, but they arent scary, but that means they are good at keeping a target off your back til youre readyfor one.

Magus of the Bridge is great for a non-zombie. Probably use it over Tainted Adversary, i feel like that one just costs way too much before its good. Dreadhorde Invasion is incredibly good, as is Mikaeus, the Unhallowed. i'd put those in for sure.Tormod, the Desecrator is still really good. Zombie Trailblazer is devastating to the person sitting to your left in particular or anyone playing five colors/ not black. When you REALLY need someone to not cast a spell. make all their lands swamps during the upkeep. almost every board wipe is a sorcery.

I think you might want to dump Thought Vessel for Mind Stone or even Blood Pet. In many cases discarding is beneficial to zombies. If you want to keep infinite hand size, Zombie Infestation and discard at will cards are pretty helpful.

I think Noxious Ghoul is the single best zombie card in the game, in this deck it basically says, tap your commander, wipe everyone else's boards. Use it.

Sutured Ghoul is runner up. If you include it and other high power zombies like Rotting Regisaur you can put him out as a 20+/xx easily, and then get 2/2s. HE doesnt play nice with mass reanimate, but he's an alternate win condition on his own. also its a great tool since youre probably gonna sac the dino and Phyrexian Soulgorger pretty quickly. If you sacrifice him on the end step before your turn i think you will almost always have a game ending horde.

Gray Merchant of Asphodel is utterly stupid. The absolute best reanimate target you could hope for. and since your card draw is gonna cost a ton of life, hes always going to be valuable. Whip of Erebos is probably the only other reasonable lifegain choice.That one makes aggressive attacking suddenly super safe

Jadar, Ghoulcaller of Nephalia is really cheap at making zombies if you dont have any other sources of decayed zombs. they cant block, but you get so many death triggers

Graveborn Muse is great card draw.

Hatred is usually better than Endless Scream

I think Gempalm Polluter is fantastic. its card draw, puts a big zombie into your graveyard, and hurts a player if things are going well.

I don't think Endless Ranks of the Dead is that great, but it certainly is cool. Wand of Orcus is really cool too. I'm not sure if its good though.

Board wipes will shut you down as you have things right now. Crowded Crypt and Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet, that way, even if there's a board wipe you still have a whole army of zombs to multiply even after everything is dead. Rise of the Dread Marn is another fantastic option that you can abuse if you run things like Carrion Feeder too. Run Carrion Feeder, period. It lets you loop gravecrawler and saves yourself from control magic and exile spells.

Consider Toxic Deluge and STRONGLY CONSIDER Nevinyrral's Disk. Single target removal like tragic slip is ok because you can choose when things die, but other cards like Malicious Affliction are going to miss a lot of key targets. And you absolutely need to have a way to clear artifacts and especially enchantments.

Dark Salvation is pretty cool. not sure if it is good enough, but i'd use it rather than some of your spot removal.

Liliana, Dreadhorde General is really absurdly strong if you can get it out, and even if it dies the next turn you can draw a bunch off of it. Liliana, Heretical Healer  Flip you already know is great.

If you diversify your black lands, Field of the Dead is the best land. its silly how good it is. I'll start you off with the autoinclude Unholy Grotto. Malakir Rebirth  Flip is too.

I'll see what you make and see if i find anything else. later

ScionsStillLive on Nicol Bolas, the Ravager

2 years ago

After looking at the decklist, I have some suggestions:

Cards to take out: Hellkite Punisher costs too much and is only a slightly bigger Shivan Dragon

Lathliss, Dragon Queen could work well in a more dragon-based deck, but it is unlikely to create many tokens in this deck

Liliana's Steward is too underwhelming of an ability to be used effectively. Same with Phyrexian Rager

You already have a lot of bounce spells, so Man-o'-War is not necessary and doesn't serve much else function as a creature

Boros Signet doesn't work in this deck because of commander colour identity

Mishra's Bauble is also a quite underwhelming card and not that useful

Rakdos Locket, Izzet Locket, and Mana Geode have better alternatives, as far as mana cost goes

Switcheroo also has better alternatives, ability and mana-wise

There are a few other cards that could be taken out, but I'm mainly highlighting the ones that should be taken out.

Cards to put in:

More removal like Cast Down and Terminate could replace a couple of bounce cards

Cards like In Bolas's Clutches and Control Magic could be considered if you want to have some more options for stealing creatures

The lockets and geode we took out earlier could be replaced with cards like Izzet Signet and other cheaper rocks

Try adding some more lands, 26 lands is not enough for a Commander deck. It is recommend to have around 35-38 lands, depending on your curve

Other than that, the deck seems fine. This deck has a lot of potential, if done right!

multimedia on

2 years ago

Hey, well done on a budget so far for a first tribal deck. You have a nice tribal concept going and your card sense is good especially if you're a beginner.

You have 19 cards too many, some cards to consider cutting to make 100 cards:

42 lands is a lot and there's also six ramp sources. You could cut 5-6 lands and be fine. I don't think adding Snow-Covered basic lands is worth it just for Narfi, Betrayer King . There's much better five drops and three drops here than Narfi to have to worry about having three Snow lands to cast him from your graveyard. The Snow duals that are an Island are good to keep because they help to activate Wonder . The other cards to consider cutting are simply not as good as other cards or Zombies at the same mana cost or have similar effects.

I offer more advice. Would you like more advice? Good luck with your deck.

BrassLord on Faceless Betrayal (updated)

3 years ago

Dimir Zombies seems to be the way to go! Duress Feed the Swarm Cling to Dust or something like Blood on the Snow are all decent sideboard inclusions for any deck running black.

Surprised not to see Murderous Rider in the list, that card is a pretty decent utility zombie! If you're leaning into the self mill thing, I've been on the painful receiving end of an early game Egon, God of Death  Flip. Also the flip side of Jorn, God of Winter  Flip is really useful with snow permeants.

For recursion, Corpse Churn and Call of the Death-Dweller are both really good ways to get back your zombies. Lurrus of the Dream-Den is another often overlooked source of recursion, though not a zombie. It does give you a more consistent grindy end game though when paired with Priest of the Haunted Edge and an early Liliana's Steward .

SueMe on Shirei

3 years ago

Yoyoyo ThatOneGuyAI!

I'd start by cutting the low-impact creatures such as:

Tattered Mummy, Shambling Goblin, Serrated Scorpion, Orzhov Enforcer, Myr Sire, Festering Goblin, Doomed Dissenter, and Deathgreeter.

I like your sac-outlets that can protect themselves through Shirei (e.g. Viscera Seer/Thoughtpicker Witch/Fume Spitter), and I'd try to avoid the ones that don't have that particular interaction: Nantuko Husk/Carrion Feeder.

Cards I would add in: Altar of Dementia, Plagued Rusalka, Dark Ritual, Feed the Swarm (enchantment removal in black), Agadeem's Awakening  Flip, Kaervek, the Spiteful (allows you to protect Shirei), and Liliana's Steward.

Femme_Fatale on Official missing/incorrect card/token thread

3 years ago

jdbug1 That's because users frequently don't look for the right choice and just choose something randomly.

Elocutiona: Liliana's Steward. It is added.

azja on Gisa and Geralf Zombies

3 years ago

Creatures:

  • cut Doomed Dissenter since it can't be recast with your commander, and there are plenty of 2/2 zombies for 2 which can
  • cut Festering Mummy because in commander, most creatures will not die with a couple of -1/-1 counters. Consider keeping it if your opponents play lots of mana dorks such as Llanowar Elves
  • cut Ghoulraiser, your commander casts a zombie of your choice from the graveyard anyway
  • cut Liliana's Steward, targeted discard is bad in commander. You and the targeted opponent lose a card, but your other two opponents don't.

My suggestions for possible replacements are Cemetery Reaper, Cryptbreaker, Rot Hulk, Sidisi, Undead Vizier and Undead Warchief.

Sorceries:

  • cut Increasing Ambition, it simply costs too much mana for the effect in my opinion
  • cut Sealed Fate, it's pretty bad unless your opponent just used a Worldly Tutor or something
  • cut Shamble Back, you don't want to exile your own creatures, and it's a pretty poor form of graveyard hate.

Suggestions: Demonic Tutor or the budget replacement Diabolic Tutor, Windfall, Night's Whisper, Reanimate and Buried Alive

Instants:

Suggestions: Cyclonic Rift, Entomb, Swan Song, Pull from Tomorrow

Artifacts:

  • cut Manalith and Nyx Lotus. When you're in 2 colours, you generally don't want to pay more than 2 mana to ramp. Plus if you ramp on turn 2, you'll have 4 mana on turn 3, allowing you to cast your commander early

Suggestions: I think you're a bit low on ramp, most commander decks want 8-10 ramp pieces. Try Arcane Signet, Dimir Signet, Talisman of Dominance, Fellwar Stone, or Mind Stone.

Enchantments:

  • cut Telepathy, it's not worth using a card to see your opponents hand unless you're playing something specific like maybe Sen Triplets.

Suggestions: Animate Dead, Phyrexian Arena, Rhystic Study

Lands:

  • For semi-budget 2-colour deck, your mana base looks pretty good. I would just cut Skyline Cascade, having it come in tapped isn't worth it for it's effect in commander. You can probably just play a basic island in its place.

If you want to upgrade your mana base, avoid lands that come in tapped like Dimir Guildgate. A few suggestions would be Command Tower, Choked Estuary, Darkwater Catacombs, Drowned Catacomb, Tainted Isle, Underground River, Watery Grave.

I hope that was helpful! Here's a link to my The Scarab God commander deck which has a pretty similar zombie tribal theme to what you have. Take a look through it and maybe you'll find more cards that I forgot to mention. If you have any questions don't be afraid to ask!

https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/27-08-19-scarab-god-edh/?cb=1597359288

Elocutiona on Official missing/incorrect card/token thread

3 years ago

It seems Liliana's Steward is missing its alternate frame version, I can't find it in either deck editor or inventory. This isn't a problem with Chandra's Magmutt, but the formatting looks strange.

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