Infinite Combo Help
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Posted on Oct. 26, 2020, 4:11 p.m. by IzBrik
Hello!
I am making a commander deck based around Alela, Artful Provocateur. I was wondering if it were possible to make an infinite artifact bounce combo to get infinite triggers off of Alela's cast ability. I was thinking that there maybe could be a way to do this infinite combo with infinite bouncing a 0 cost artifact like a Darksteel Relic. Is there a chance that someone more educated than I could help guide me to an answer?
VampDemigod says... #3
3x Artifact cost reducers (or just a total of off—Infinite mana also works) + Myr Retriever + Junk Diver + Sac Outlet
October 26, 2020 4:29 p.m.
I would suggest you to check on commanderspellbook.com. There are many cards that enable infinite casts combos in esper, many involving 0 CMC artifacts and either Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle or Emry, Lurker of the Loch.
October 26, 2020 4:48 p.m.
VampDemigod says... #5
Oh crud. I forgot colors and forgot OP was in white. Yeah there are a lot of broken combos.
October 26, 2020 5:34 p.m.
VampDemigod says... #6
Not sure how either card k1ng listed is part of a combo tho. I’m sure there is one, just can’t imagine.
October 26, 2020 5:36 p.m.
I do want to mention that, while the combos above all work, the theoretical one you mentioned - infinite bouncing Darksteel Relic or any other artifact - would not. Alela specifies the artifact needs to be cast, it is not an ETB effect. Good luck and have fun brewin'!
EDIT: Never mind I misread "bounce" for "flicker"! Sorry about that.
October 26, 2020 5:51 p.m. Edited.
Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle. An artifact is historic. So an artifact creature can trigger Teshar. And if it costs 0 like Phyrexian Walker or similar, you can sac them to something like Phyrexian Altar and generate infinite mana and infinite ETB and infinite GY triggers.
Edit: It won't trigger Alela, Artful Provocateur but wanted to share a way to use Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle as part of a combo engine.
October 26, 2020 5:56 p.m. Edited.
RiotRunner789 says... #9
EDHRECs website has a combo tab and lists most of the combos in there respective colors.
October 26, 2020 6:01 p.m.
Oops, took too long to hit edit. Teshar doesnt return to hand, it returns to play so you would need another card for a infinite recursion to happen.
October 26, 2020 6:02 p.m.
on the Senei top Mystic Forge also allows for top casting is colorless Cloud Key andHelm of Awakening having Leyline of Anticipation or Vedalken Orrery allow for playing of the top of the library at flash
October 26, 2020 6:23 p.m.
VampDemigod says... #12
BTW, TappedOut has a combo section for each card. Obviously, it won’t have everything, but it has a lot. Just scroll down on the card’s page till you get to the section marked “combos” and press “see all”. Not all are infinite, but some are.
October 26, 2020 7:14 p.m.
plakjekaas says... #13
Zephyr Scribe + Retraction Helix/Banishing Knack to infinitely bounce the Darksteel Relic will get you there
October 27, 2020 6:40 a.m.
As a correction to my above, I wrote Rings + Grim Monolith, when I meant Basalt Monolith. The first does not work as a combo.
October 27, 2020 8:15 a.m.
gavriel1136 says... #15
Okay so I'm seeing a lot of people listing Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle, without a combo that gives you infinite cast triggers, so lemme clear this up.
- Have teshar and a free sacrifice outlet
- Have a card that returns artifacts you your hand when it dies (such as Junk Diver) in the graveyard.
- Cast a 0 CMC artifact, such as Ornithopter. Note that if you can hoof the original mana cost, cards like Myr Moonvessel or Cathodion also work.
- Teshar triggers on cast and you get back the Junk Diver or similar card to the battlefield.
- Sacrifice the 0 CMC FIRST, then sacrifice the Junk Diver.
- The diver will return your 0 drop to you hand. Now you man recast the 0 drop again, which will reset you to step 3. This will give you infinite ETB's, death triggers, and casts.
October 27, 2020 9:05 a.m.
Expensive solution: Auriok Salvagers + Lion's Eye Diamond
Cheap solution: Auriok Salvagers + Lotus Petal + Training Grounds OR Heartstone
Enduring Renewal would also work when combo'd with any of the creatures listed here. Hangarback Walker, Phyrexian Marauder, Shifting Wall, Stonecoil Serpent, Walking Ballista. You would be able to infinitely cast these creatures for 0 mana.
October 27, 2020 12:38 p.m.
multimedia says... #17
Alela + Thopter Assembly + Time Sieve + 6 mana = infinite 1/1 Faeries + infinite turns.
Infinite Faeries because Assembly is bounced back to your hand to cast with 6 mana. Infinite turns because Assembly creates 5 artifacts to sac with Sieve. Alela with Commander damage and Faeries can be a win condition with infinite turns by attacking. Shimmer Myr is nice with this combo because Assembly and Sieve are artifacts.
Caerwyn says... #2
Future Sight + Sensei's Divining Top + Etherium Sculptor (or any other artifact cost reducer).
You can generate infinite mana with Rings of Brighthearth and Grim Monolith, then sink that infinite mana into Sensei's Divining Top and doubling its draw ability with Rings of Brighthearth, using the infinite mana to keep casting the Top every time you draw it anew.
I'm sure there are better ones out there that others might think of.
However, make sure what you are doing is worth it--there are lots of infinite combos in the game, but some of them are a bit too clunky to effectively pull off in a real world setting. Sculptor, Sensei, Rings, and Monolith are all solid cards on their own right, so you could probably get away with running them without harming your deck. Future Sight is a bit more iffy, and can be deck-dependent. If you have a lot of mana rocks, low-costed cards, and ways to get lands off the top of your deck (such as Top), then you can probably get a solid amount of value out of Future Sight. If not, it might be a waste of a deck slot.
October 26, 2020 4:23 p.m.