I’m new to cEDH and I was wondering about flash hulk
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Posted on March 1, 2020, 2:34 a.m. by Redcat7264
I am currently playing an Animar, Soul of Elements deck and I have Flash + Protean Hulk but as of now it’s just a tutor. I was wondering if there was a combo in those colors that allowed me to go infinite and win as is possible in decks that include black and white
CharonSquared says... #3
Oops, that's 7 CMC. Umm you might be able to do a more convoluted line involving Body Double, but those usually involve Reveillark and/or Karmic Guide. Not sure what you could pull off in RUG colors.
March 1, 2020 3:13 a.m.
Assuming Animar, Soul of Elements has four +1/+1 counters on him; Ancestral Statue is your first pick to make animar infinitely big
What to do with the other 2cmc? Could always go with Essence Warden for infinite life.
Cloud of Faeries or Dockside Extortionist for access to a little more mana
Phantasmal Image or Fblthp, the Lost for the lolz
If you have something like Earthcraft already on the field; instead go get Purphoros, God of the Forge and Shrieking Drake for infinite damage
Lastly Ezuri, Claw of Progress + Sage of Hours + (any four 0 cmc creatures): Memnite, Phyrexian Walker, Ornithopter, Kobolds of Kher Keep, Walking Ballista, etc for infinite turns
Good luck! Animar is my favorite!
March 1, 2020 6:05 a.m.
multimedia says... #5
Hey, Hulk tutor for Ancestral Statue + Reckless Fireweaver. Animar needs four counters for this combo to win. Four counters because that's how many are needed to infinite cast Statue. Fireweaver is the win condition with infinite ETB of Statue.
The power of Flash Hulk is being able to win at instant speed. The problem with using Flash Hulk combos with Animar is you need a way to be able keep recasting creatures at instant speed. Can of course get a Hulk line at instant speed with Flash, but after that you want to recast sorcery speed creatures to put counters on Animar which you can't do at instant speed. Sac Emergence Zone for an instant speed win with Flash Hulk/Animar.
March 1, 2020 11:55 a.m.
@multimedia RECKLESS FIREWEAVER! OF COURSE!
I was trying to think of an Impact Tremors-like effect, and that's totally it. I already run it in my Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain deck derrrp
March 1, 2020 5:44 p.m.
GhostChieftain says... #7
The statue+fireweaver should be your #1 in animar imo. Dockside Extortionist+Temur Sabertooth is a good #2 as long as you have something else on board or in hand that can get you a win somehow. It is good to note that dockcat combo can sometimes win without animar if you get 5+ treasures on each cast
March 1, 2020 10:58 p.m.
multimedia says... #8
Another Flash Hulk/Animar combo is you have least four lands, Animar has at least three counters and your opponents among them have at least three artifacts/enchantments.
Hulk tutor for Imperial Recruiter + Dockside Extortionist. Recruiter tutors for Phyrexian Metamorph first, then Kiri-Onna, then Peregrine Drake and last Walking Ballista as the win condition. In the combo for the cost of 8 life use Metamorph to copy Recruiter three times. Metamorph, Kiri and Drake or Extortionist make a bouncing, copying, casting, mana loop to put infinite counters on Animar.
March 2, 2020 1:24 a.m.
Honestly, in truly competitive EDH settings Flash Hulk combos in general aren't effective and generally aren't worth building into a deck as the deck slot efficiency is absolutely atrocious. Devoting 20 some odd cards to a single combo line and it's various tutor pieces is an absolutely awful use of limited resource space when cards like Extract and strategies like Inception style decks exist that completely eliminate the possibility of glass cannon combo style decks being able to consistently win games. If no one in your group plays such competitive concepts then Flash Hulk or Doomsday style combos are fine to play, but it's been well over a year since these types of concepts have been tier 1 competitive, even if most in the cEDH community, from a world wide standpoint, have yet to catch on.
If you're set on employing a Flash Hulk combo in an Animar deck then the way to go about it is definitely Statue+Fireweaver and running a high number of mana dorks to build up Animar counters as the set up. Not remotely close to competitive in a true sense, but this is as competitive as a Flash Hulk combo can get in those colors.
CharonSquared says... #2
Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker and Corridor Monitor.
March 1, 2020 3:10 a.m.