[cEDH] Krenko Combo [[Primer]]

Commander / EDH mariowen

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New Toys —Oct. 31, 2020

There are two new updates, the first is a straight upgrade. Removing Ogre Battledriver for Tuktuk Rubblefort.

The second is an absolute auto-include for us, Jeweled Lotus! As this deck wants to go fast and use Krenko as the centre combo piece, ramping this out ASAP is perfect. With a heavy heart I remove Goblin War Strike. If you have enough goblins for this to take out a player, we are already winning.

Tiddlydon says... #1

Can you please explain the Pashalik Mons combo? Thanks

April 21, 2020 7:31 a.m.

VaalVanir says... #2

Tiddlydon

Pashalik Mons + Mana Echoes + Skirk Prospector = Infinite direct damage at 1 dmg each time that you can trigger at instant speed.

But this is IF you get this combo out. Most of the time I use Pashalik Mons as a board wipe deterrent.

April 22, 2020 6:04 p.m.

Hono-Garon says... #3

how do you combo with cloudstone curio? I don't understand yet! sorry

May 3, 2020 11:39 p.m.

VaalVanir says... #4

Hono-Garon

I'll try to answer your question since you haven't gotten a reply yet.

There are actually two combos we can do with Cloudstone Curio:

  1. Cloudstone Curio + Dockside Extortionist + Skirk Prospector = Infinite Mana as long as your opponents have at least 4 total artifacts/enchantments. Play Dockside Extortionist while Cloudstone Curio is already in play to gain at least 4 treasures, then use a treasure to cast Skirk Prospector while returning Dockside Extortionist back into your hand. Play Dockside Extortionist to gain another 4 treasures while returning Skirk Prospector into your hand. Repeat and you have infinite mana. This allows you to cast Krenko, Mob Boss over and over while activating his ability to create more goblin tokens.. and this leads us to our next combo.

  2. Krenko, Mob Boss + Cloudstone Curio: When Krenko, Mob Boss activates his ability while Cloudstone Curio is on the battlefield you may choose to return Krenko, Mob Boss back to your hand. If you have enough mana, then you can cast Krenko, Mob Boss again. This lowers the mana threshold to cast Krenko multiple times. If you have Skirk Prospector in play also then all you need is to have a total of 5 goblins in play, including Krenko, when Krenko activates his ability.

Hope this answers your question.

May 8, 2020 4:59 a.m.

VaalVanir says... #5

mariowen

Conspicuous Snoop (that goblin in M21). Enough said.

June 10, 2020 12:58 p.m.

mariowen says... #6

VaalVanir, absolutely!

I am currently testing Deflecting Swat from C20 and Footfall Crater in place of Ogre Battledriver. Have you tested these out and what’s your thoughts?

June 10, 2020 2:09 p.m.

VaalVanir says... #7

mariowen

I've tested Deflecting Swat and it's staying in the mainboard.

Footfall Crater only gave 1 creature haste, 1 time per turn. So Krenko on 2nd cast of the turn will not have haste. Therefore, Ogre Battledriver stays.

I would like to incorporate the mogg fanatic combo into the deck. We'll need to add Kiki and Fanatic. This will serve as our 2nd win con, while Pashalik Mons will be our 3rd win con.

June 10, 2020 2:18 p.m.

Frankly_Proven says... #8

Hello,

I've been playing a variation of your list for about a year now and fell in love ever since. At first I was not convinced about snoop until realizing the combo!

Snoop Combo (Basically a mono red Doomsday) : Goblin Recruiter + Some piece of draw, e.g. Insolent Neonate + A lot of mana, RRRR or more.

Play the Goblin Recruiter, getting Dark-Dweller Oracle, Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker, Skirk Prospector, Torch Courier or Goblin Chieftan, and Conspicuous Snoop. Put them on the top of your library, first card on the bottom of the pile and going up

Some cards we can cut to fit in the Fanatic Snoop Combo and Kiki Snoop combo are:

Cards to add for the combos:

Time to playtest! :)

Let me know what you think.

June 10, 2020 11:27 p.m.

Frankly_Proven says... #9

You can replace Dark-Dweller Oracle for Mogg Fanatic or have both if you like as well.

Oracle allows you to just play your whole deck if you wanted with the infinite that you get from Skirk Prospector and your infinite snoops :)

June 11, 2020 12:42 a.m.

Masss says... #10

Hi everyone. I play the same deck and I find it very strong :) I recently made some changes due to the new cards released, which are going to create a lot of problems for our beloved commander goblin. Let me know what you think ..

Changes:

Sanctum of Eternity out - in Strip Mine

Darksteel Citadel out - in Wasteland

Sanctum of Eternity is a valid card, but the fact that we can return our command to our hand only in our turn makes it a little less strong. Cloudstone Curio already replaces it at best. Strip Mine and Wasteland allow us to eliminate lands that create problems for us (for example The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale) or protect Cavern of Souls or Homeward Path from other lands that destroy lands.

Mogg Catcher out - Expedition Map in

Mogg Catcher is slow and it is often difficult to make the best use of it. Expedition Map allows us to tutor land cards as needed: do we have to destroy a land? Tutor Strip Mine or Wasteland. Do we have to be immune to counters? Tutor Cavern of Souls. Do we have to get the commander back in hand? Tutor Homeward Path. No mana red? Tutor land for mana.

Goblin Chirurgeon out - Abrade in

Last Chance out - Deflecting Swat in

Abrade provides more combat flexibility (also to deal with the feared 3hp body Drannith Magistrate). Deflecting Swat is a must in every red mono both in defense and attack (you can delete some black tutors :)), unlike Last Chance which is unfortunately a bit slow since it is a sorcery.

Price of Glory out - Defense Grid in

Price of Glory is valid, but it does allow the enemy to play spells using mana ramps. This makes it immune from land loss. Defense Grid always complicates the opportunity life. And for this it is simply stronger.

I am currently testing the snoop - kiki combo. Stay tuned :) regards

Stephen

July 21, 2020 10:11 a.m.

yinyang64 says... #11

Hey bud, your deck is amazing and I've been following it for awhile. I'd like to shoot you some questions over discord if you're alright with that in regards to the Snoop combo and fixing up my own Krenko deck. My tag is 410#9311, hope to hear from you soon

July 31, 2020 8:09 a.m.

the_derf says... #12

So TukTuk Rubblefort in for ogre battledriver, yeah?

October 28, 2020 3:48 p.m.

mariowen says... #13

the_derf Yes I agree! My playgroup have not been meeting due to the pandemic so haven’t kept up with spoilers and new sets. Thanks for pointing this out!

October 29, 2020 4:15 a.m.

Sultai_Sir says... #14

Hey man, I'm thinking about linking your deck to my Krenko deck. Is that good with you? Here's the link: Turn 3, 600 Gobins [[PRIMER]]. Thanks!

October 29, 2020 10:05 a.m.