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Savage Offensive
Sorcery
Kicker *(You may pay an additional as you play this spell.) *
Creatures you control gain first strike until end of turn. If the kicker cost was paid, they get +1/+1 until end of turn.
Suns_Champion on Ain't no Hallar back girl
4 years ago
Okay buddy here we go!
I think we need to fix a lot of things here. Ramp is an easy fix, we'll get some more instant/sorceries that get lands because they are safest. Then we'll work on getting more counters on Hallar in more efficient ways. We'll also swap out some of your kicker spells for other kicker spells that do better things.
Cards to look at:
- Snake Umbra It's protection and draw
- Ordeal of Nylea Counters and ramp
- Wolfbriar Elemental an "eh" kicker but lots of tokens if you get the mana
- Vigor awesome against Neheb and Torbran
- Verduran Emissary kicker and removal
- Thicket Elemental kicker and free creature, but it costs a lot so maybe not
- Pir, Imaginative Rascal another hardened scales
- Mold Shambler kicker and removal (better than Thicket Elemental)
- Citanul Woodreaders kicker and draw (better than Thicket Elemental)
- Rishkar's Expertise draw and free spell
- Greater Good is good for drawing cards in the event a board wipe or removal happens. Yeah you have to discard 3 but who cares when you're hopefully drawing 8+ by sacking Hallar
- Return of the Wildspeaker another draw or a buff
- Hunter's Insight Since Hallar has trample you'll definitely get cards, but this can be 3 mana draw 8+ if he's unblocked
- Canopy Surge cheap kicker that also hits players so you can bring them down lower
- Chandra's Ignition boardwipe/damage players
- Breath of Darigaaz cheap kicker that also jits players
- Quest for Pure Flame cheap damage doubler to help you close a game. One Hallar activation puts 3 counters on it.
- Hour of Devastation solid boardwipe that hopefully won't kill Hallar
- Tectonic Reformation For cycling lands
- Solidarity of Heroes cheap kicker that doubles counters
- Heroic Intervention protection
- Savage Offensive cheap kicker that's a combat trick sorta
- Blade of the Bloodchief might be good with Elenda and Teysa sacking all those creatures.
- Primal Vigor double counters
- Llanowar Reborn easy +1 at the cost of it coming in tapped, great in opening hand
- Jiang Yanggu, Wildcrafter mana and +1s
- Rishkar, Peema Renegade mana and +1s
- Forgotten Ancient more counters
- Farseek 2 mana ramp
- Sakura-Tribe Elder 2 mana ramp
- Rampant Growth 2 mana ramp
- Nature's Lore 2 mana ramp
- Kodama's Reach 3 mana ramp and guaranteed land drop
- Cultivate 3 mana ramp and guaranteed land drop
- Explore 2 mana ramp and draw
Cards to maybe cut
- Azusa, Lost but Seeking only good early game or if you're drawing a ton of cards, replace with any 2 mana ramp card
- Elvish Visionary replace with Explore
- Grand Warlord Radha Looking to go lower on creatures, replace with 2 mana ramp spell
- Grunn, the Lonely King replace with cheaper kicker or at least a kicker that draws cards or is removal
- Loyal Guardian replace with better +1 counter option
- Rummaging Goblin Replace with better draw
- Savage Ventmaw 2 mana ramp spell
- Servant of the Scale replace with better +1 counter
- Skizzik replace with cheaper kicker or at least a kicker that draws cards or is removal
- Untamed Kavu replace with cheaper kicker or at least a kicker that draws cards or is removal
- Fog You know I don't like these but I know you like them. I'd replace with Heroic Intervention
- Magmatic Insight replace with Tectonic reformation
- Expedite replace with draw spell
- Darksteel Ingot 2 mana ramp
- Gruul Locket 2 mana ramp
- Gruul Cluestone 2 mana ramp
- Repercussion is way, waaaaaaaaaaaay to risky now with Neheb AND torbran. replace with anything really
- Forced Adaptation Replace with better +1 or doubler
- Radha, Heir to Keld replace with 2 mana ramp spell
So with all that I hope you're mana will be more consistant and your draw will be more powerful, then you'll be able to dump more counters on Hallar and snipe some wins. If not, your kicker spells will have more impact because they'll draw or remove or ramp. Focus on the 2cmc ramp cards, then swap out the kicker spells, then get those draw cards in there.
Here's a Deck you can also look at
iBleedPunk on
6 years ago
The only reason Savage Offensive made the list is because it's a cheap-ish way of triggering Hallar. Kicker spells in Gruul are pretty limited as is and I want the capability of consistent Kicker triggers. I will however simply swap Offensive with a copy of Dictate of the Twin Gods for testing sake.
Regarding Evolutionary Escalation I know it's a double edged sword but through playing it in my current group has yielded promising results. If there were another card capable of granting counters as fast as EE does then I'd gladly swap it out.
Howling Mine could probably be switched out for Rishkar's Expertise so thank you for that suggestion. Definitely could be a card advantage monster.
Honestly I totally forgot Temur Sabertooth was a thing. When I was looking for Bounce effects in my colors I didn't think to check effects. Definitely an easy swap
I super appreciate your feedback and suggestions mate, I really like this deck and getting fleshed out and polished is my goal.
LittleBlueHero on
6 years ago
Ah, right you are I was just going off the top of my head, forgot that one was combat damage.
At first pass my gut tells me Savage Offensive since like you said you aren't worried about combat damage much, could probably go.
And Evolutionary Escalation is a card that has made for some headaches when I ran it in the past. When its good its good, but giving folks the means to come at me with giant creatures wasn't always great.
other than that, along those same lines, i haven't had much luck with Howling Mine type effects unless im playing to abuse them. giving your opponents cards is rarely going to help you out, and don't be surprised if someone draws off of it and then destroys it before you can even use it :)
Rishkar's Expertise has quickly become my favorite green draw spell.
Also if you are noticing the deck is a little creature light you could swap out Blood Clock for Temur Sabertooth. One of the best bounce cards green can offer.
Gathering4Magic on red green convoke
7 years ago
sorry about that, I had forgotten to unclick the "private" button from when I was working on it. Link should work for you now.
I played three matches with it yesterday on Xmage. The first against green stompy, I went 2-0 and was able to out-stomp stompy as he was trying to get out lots of cheap shroud guys, but I was able to go wide and take him down.
Second match was against U/B control, and I went 0-2. I got him down a lot in both games, but he had enough counter and kill spells to win game two, and an early shrivel (all creatures get -1/-1 at instant speed) shut me down game two.
The third match was against a 4-5 color Fling-Atog deck. I took a huge 14-hit swing in game one, but was still able to win, and in game two I just swarmed over him for the win!
I must say, the deck is a BLAST to play! it comes out of the gate swinging, and I love how resilient the deck is with sprout swarm able to keep pumping out tokens when I have nothing else in hand! main tweaks I made were to put in 4 lightning bolts, add the essence warden to the main, and put the druid's deliverance in the side. still have plenty of testing to go, but I am really considering building this in paper to play in my local meta!
I'm considering removing some of the high-end creatures and adding some massive pump spells like Violent Outburst, Path of Anger's Flame, Rites of Initiation, Battle Frenzy, Banners Raised, and Savage Offensive as quicker finishers since it can pump out a lot of tokens. We'll have to see after more testing!