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| Format | Legality |
| 1v1 Commander | Legal |
| Archenemy | Legal |
| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Commander / EDH | Legal |
| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
| Custom | Legal |
| Duel Commander | Legal |
| Highlander | Legal |
| Legacy | Legal |
| Leviathan | Legal |
| Limited | Legal |
| Oathbreaker | Legal |
| Planechase | Legal |
| Quest Magic | Legal |
| Vanguard | Legal |
| Vintage | Legal |
Rain of Riches
Enchantment
When Rain of Riches enters the battlefield, create two Treasure tokens. (They're colourless artifacts with ", Sacrifice this: Add one mana of any colour.")
The first spell you cast each turn that mana from a Treasure was spent to cast has cascade. (When you cast the spell, exile cards from the top of your library until you exile a nonland card that costs less. You may cast it without paying its mana cost. Put the exiled cards on the bottom of your library in a random order.)
rckclimber777 on Build a Deck with Me …
1 week ago
First a quick introduction. I've been playing magic off and on for years. When this site first started out, I was super active and then I stopped playing. I recently got back into it and plunged deep into the Commander format. I love building decks around interesting concepts and often trying to break cards.
My slightly ambitious goal is to create a series of threads that show my thought process as I build a commander deck. I figure it will serve two purposes: First, it will aid newer players who have some precon decks and perhaps are looking to upgrade them or they see a commander and want to build it, but aren't sure how. The second is purely self-motivated in that more experienced players can fine tune my own logic and make suggestions for my own improvement.
So with that, the first commander deck I'm going to build here is Ghired, Mirror of the Wilds. This is a card that begs to be broken and creates for interesting and powerful decks. There are also several different lines you can choose to go with. You can make it go infinite if you like degeneracy or don't like the people in your playgroup, or you can decide to go the way of building lots of tokens quickly and then turning them sideways and swinging. (Spoiler alert we are going infinite)
So first things first, we need to think about what the commander actually does and what it is going to need to do that effectively. First, it allows all nontoken creatures to tap and create tokens that I control that entered the battlefield this turn. So a couple things to point out: First is that it is tokens not creature tokens specifically, so treasures, clues, food, etc. are fair game. Secondly, it doesn't have to be my turn that the tokens came in, you can activate the ability at instant speed if you create a token on your opponent's turn. Now Ghired also is only 3 mana in Naya colors with Haste which means he's going to come down early in the game, so we'll want some other creatures out there when he comes down to start building up tokens right away.
With his abilities in mind, there are a couple things that we want to think about: Cards that create tokens, cards that double tokens, cards that untap things, and cards that do interesting things when they're tapped, example Wylie Duke, Atiin Hero, who comes down early as well, and when she is tapped I gain life and draw a card. We will obviously need to consider interaction, ramp, and card draw, but those are secondary in my thoughts. Every deck needs those, but what items you add often depends on what your deck is trying to do. In this case, we want to make tokens, tap creatures, make more tokens.
Token Generators
So a couple really good token generators here to start would be things that keep making them rather than one offs. In my playtesting Oltec Matterweaver is hard to beat. It comes in early (turn 2 if you can get a sol ring). When you cast a creature spell you can copy a target artifact or bring out a 1/1 gnome. Turn 1 you play a plains and a sol ring. Turn 2 you bring this out, turn 3 you bring out Ghired, creating a copy of sol ring, tap your Oltec Matterweaver and create another sol ring. You now have 3 sol rings on the field on turn 3... You are now the archenemy, congrats? EDIT: So as it was pointed out in the comments Oltec only creates copies of TOKEN artifacts. We could use Molten Duplication to create a copy of an artifact, but still Oltec still does great at producing consistent tokens.
Some other standouts are Emmara, Soul of the Accord who when tapped creates a 1/1 soldier with lifelink. So tapping will actually create two tokens. Also if you need a token for Sunstrike Legionnaire to go infinite you can tap her down (she's only 2 mana) create your 1/1 soldier, untap sunstrike, with Ghired on the field, tap Sunstrike to create infinite lifelink 1/1 soldiers. (actually happened in playtesting)
Generous Plunderer deserves a mention as you really need consistent tokens every turn and this does that. It gives you treasure tokens which is great and is likely to stick around since your opponents like the possibility of getting a treasure token as well. Dockside Extortionist can take the deck to new levels of degeneracy depending on when you play it/number of times you copy it with things like kiki jiki and jaxis.
Selvala, Eager Trailblazer is also great as you get 1/1 creatures every time you cast a creature spell. Her ramp also goes surprisingly well in the deck. I highly recommend it.
Thousand Moons Smithy Flip is another beast of a card. It comes down turn 4, Ghired is already out along with any other low cost creatures. Let's say you have a Birds of Paradise and Ghired when this comes down and maybe a mana rock. You create a 5/5 Gnome (2 creatures, 2 artifacts, and the gnome itself). Now you tap the bird and Ghired and create two more Gnomes. You now have 3 7/7s, on turn 4...
Honorable mentions here are things like Smothering Tithe who will create treasures each opponent's turn, tap a creature and create another. Rain of Riches, create some treasures, copy them, cast something, and get cascade.
Also, populate is a thing, I like Growing Ranks and Nesting Dovehawk for that.
Doublers
Ok, so doublers is a pretty easy topic, there are quite a few out there, they are expensive and honestly for this deck you don't need much. I chose a couple that I particularly like for this and by like I mean I own them and didn't have to go out and spend $50-60. Examples are Ojer Taq, Deepest Foundation Flip, Mondrak, Glory Dominus, Primal Vigor (careful as this one applies to everyone not just you).
I ended up starting out with 3 of these and then cut it down to just the two creatures mondrak and ojer taq. Both are still great and can quickly overwhelm the opponent. I found myself holding onto the enchantments in preference to playing token creators and creatures.
Untapping Abilities
Untapping abilites can make it even worse as time goes on. If you have a Seedborn Muse you untap each upkeep so they draw a card, Smothering Tithe creates a treasure, during their end step you tap your creatures creating more treasures. Untap on the next opponent's untap step, rinse and repeat.
This is also where infinite combos begin to happen. Sunstrike Legionnaire untaps everytime a creature enters the battlefield. Make a creature token, tap sunstrike legionnaire, create another creature token, sunstrike legionnaire untaps, rinse and repeat, gg. Midnight Guard works too for one more mana. Other options include making copies of your own creatures that untap creatures when they enter the battlefield like Hyrax Tower Scout, Zealous Conscripts, Sparring Mummy. Mix that with notable salty cards like Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker, Molten Duplication, Splinter Twin, Jaxis, the Troublemaker and you're off to infinite again. (Jaxis uses his ability targeting sparring mummy, sparring mummy comes in untaps him, now Jaxis just taps to make a copy of the sparring mummy token (from Ghired) which has haste, it comes in untaps Jaxis, rinse and repeat, swing with a legion of sparring mummies)
Don't got too heavy on these or you won't have enough tokens to copy.
Cards that do cool things when tapped aren't super plentiful, but the two I've mentioned already are great for this deck. (Wylie and Emmara).
Interaction, ramp, card draw
Now for the ramp, interaction, and card draw. Ramp is fairly straightforward, since we have the Oltec Matterweaver, I opted to put in some signets, but left some other stones out. Normally when I'm in green I go heavy on green ramp. I opted for cheap ramp spells like Rampant Growth, Farseek, Three Visits and Birds of Paradise (could maybe use more mana dorks since having a body later will help in producing larger tokens).
Interaction is super important in this one. Board wipes are coming, targeted removal is coming, so need to prepare, but we also need to be flexible in taking out our opponents. So to save us from board wipes, we have Heroic Intervention, the ubiquitous and hopefully soon to be reprinted (one can dream) Teferi's Protection, Boros Charm, and Smuggler's Surprise (which is heroic intervention in disguise).
Getting rid of threats is crucial, so Path to Exile, Swords to Plowshares are useful, but not as useful as Beast Within, Generous Gift, and Stroke of Midnight. These obviously target more than just creatures, but also produce tokens. There are situations where a well-timed beast within on your own treasure token to create a 3/3 beast that you can copy a bunch of times is the right play. That make it not just removal, but also a token generator.
Finally, we come to card draw. Since we are producing tokens (hopefully most turns) we can include things like Bennie Bracks, Zoologist and Idol of Oblivion. I also like Welcoming Vampire for this deck. It is creature heavy so Guardian Project is great, so is Beast Whisperer and Garruk's Uprising. Esper Sentinel is always good. We already have Wylie from earlier. Getting card draw is vital to the survival of any deck and particularly this one as we need to be producing tokens regularly and you need cards to produce them. I chose to run about 11 card draw engines in the deck to ensure I'm drawing regularly.
Lands... I mean... make sure you have dual lands in the deck and triomes if you can. One noteworthy utility land is Grove of the Guardian which can have a nice payoff when you create an 8/8 with a few creatures out along with Ghired.
I'll post the deck that I built from this thought process on my page in case you want to see the final product. And if you made it this far thanks for joining me on this, I hope it was helpful. Feel free to comment on how you would do it differently or cards that should have been mentioned. Also feel free to mention commanders you want to see built. I have a couple in mind to start but want to see suggestions as well.
Here is the final decklist: Ghired the infinite outlaw
capwner on
Magda - Gundabad reclaimed ٭✧✦
3 months ago
Cool Dorfs
Hall of the Bandit Lord seems like a fit both on flavor and mechanically! I also like Stranglehold a lot in mono red. Reiterate is reusable interaction since you're making loads of treasures hopefully. Heat Shimmer seems like it maaaaayyy be good based on some of the creatures I am seeing... oh yeah what's that treasure cascade cards... Rain of Riches!! :) Most of the other cards I'd play in mono red you're already running :) Nice!
Liquidbeaver on
Ib Halfheart, Goblin Sac-tician [PRIMER]
7 months ago
I finally finished my "vacation" (courtesy of our Dear Leader) in the Southern Booger Mines and was able to review the last few sets.
Say hello to our newest friends*!
Gimli, Counter of Kills: Decent boardwipe dissuasion and adds a nice layer of extra damage to everything we're doing anyway.
Pain Distributor: Nice pressure in general due to the number of artifacts that leave play naturally, but also helps make Descent into Avernus more one-sided.
Fall of Cair Andros: Yes they are dirty Orcians, but with the amount of noncombat damage dealt by this deck the Army should have a strong board presence. Ties into Toralf, God of Fury Flip, the damage doublers/triplers, Skirk Fire Marshal, and Blasphemous Act very well.
There and Back Again: Has all the elements requested in Ib's latest agenda.
Maskwood Nexus: While not game-changing on it's own when it comes out, I think the fun factor of what it enables is worth testing out.
Mines of Moria: Not sure if this makes the cut, but it's easy enough to swap a land for a land for testing.
Say goodbye to these dishonorable discharges!:
(Your mother's baby name for you! - Ib Halfheart)
Professional Face-Breaker: Can't say I ever got the use the first ability due to how often my damage was non-combat, and is too spendy for a little bit of quasi-draw.
Rose Room Treasurer: Looks decent at face value, but didn't hold its weight in actual play.
Grenzo, Havoc Raiser: Not comfortable with this removal, so will be the first one that goes back in if any additions are sub par.
Rain of Riches: I think in a deck built to cascade better this would make a bigger impact, but all it really got me is two treasures for . Oof.
Big Score: Another hard decision, and likely to come back after testing. Either that or an actual draw engine of some sort?
Riveteers Overlook: My landbase has been pretty refined for a long time, so this was literally only used for the pretty inconsequential 1 life. Easy cut.
That's it for now. Let me know what you think!
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Liquidbeaver on
Ib Halfheart, Goblin Sac-tician [PRIMER]
7 months ago
I finally finished my "vacation" (courtesy of our Dear Leader) in the Southern Booger Mines and was able to review the last few sets.
Say hello to our newest friends*!
Gimli, Counter of Kills: Decent boardwipe dissuasion and adds a nice layer of extra damage to everything we're doing anyway.
Pain Distributor: Nice pressure in general due to the number of artifacts that leave play naturally, but also helps make Descent into Avernus more one-sided.
Fall of Cair Andros: Yes they are dirty Orcians, but with the amount of noncombat damage dealt by this desk the Army should have a strong board presence. Ties into Toralf, God of Fury Flip, the damage doublers/triplers, Skirk Fire Marshal, and Blasphemous Act very well.
There and Back Again: Has all the elements requested in Ib's latest agenda.
Maskwood Nexus: While not game-changing on it's own when it comes out, I think the fun factor of what it enables is worth testing out.
Mines of Moria: Not sure if this makes the cut, but it's easy enough to swap a land for a land for testing.
Say goodbye to these dishonorable discharges!:
(Your mother's baby name for you! - Ib Halfheart)
Professional Face-Breaker: Can't say I ever got the use the first ability due to how often my damage was non-combat, and is too spendy for a little bit of quasi-draw.
Rose Room Treasurer: Looks decent at face value, but didn't hold its weight in actual play.
Grenzo, Havoc Raiser: Not comfortable with this removal, so will be the first one that goes back in if any additions are sub par.
Rain of Riches: I think in a deck built to cascade better this would make a bigger impact, but all it really got me is two treasures for . Oof.
Big Score: Another hard decision, and likely to come back after testing. Either that or an actual draw engine of some sort?
Riveteers Overlook: My landbase has been pretty refined for a long time, so this was literally only used for the pretty inconsequential 1 life. Easy cut.
That's it for now. Let me know what you think!
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Rhadamanthus on How does Sarinth Steelseeker interact …
8 months ago
A point of detail first: Rain of Riches and Wild-Magic Sorcerer don't "trigger" here, rather they give the cascade ability to the first spell you cast that meets their requirements. Cascade itself is a triggered ability, but it's coming from the spell it's on, which here would be Killer Service and later Spark Double. This doesn't cause a problem with your scenario because you still get to choose the order of Killer Service's cascade trigger and Rashmi and Ragavan's triggered ability since they're trying to go onto the stack at the same time.
You get to choose the order of the triggers. If you're taking the option to cast Spark Double without paying its mana cost, that means it's happening during the resolution of Rashmi and Ragavan's triggered ability. Abilities can trigger during the resolution of another spell/ability, but they have to wait until that other spell/ability is finished resolving before they can be put onto the stack. Spark Double's cascade trigger and Sarinth Steelseeker's triggered ability both trigger during the resolution of Rashmi and Ragavan's ability, so that means they're trying to go onto the stack at the same time after it's done and you get to choose the order.
S0me0nesp3c1al on How does Sarinth Steelseeker interact …
8 months ago
I was reading into some of the cascade abilities and felt like I understood it but this one kinda has me stumped. Granted I am test playing the deck and my board has gotten crazy. So the scenario is I have a Rashmi and Ragavan on my board along with a Sarinth Steelseeker , Wild-Magic Sorcerer , and Rain of Riches. I cast Killer Service from my hand as my first spell this turn using mana from a Treasure Token. I believe I have it correct up to the following.
On cast, I have two separate triggers from Rashmi and Ragavan and Rain of Riches. I will place Rain of Riches on the stack first and Rashmi and Ragavan after. Priority passes and it begins to resolve.
Rashmi and Ragavan exiles a card from the top of the target opponent's library and creates a treasure token. For this scenario, let's say it is a Spark Double and I can cast it without paying its mana cost.
My question is at this point do I cast Spark Double? and then Wild-Magic Sorcerer triggers? At what point does Sarinth Steelseeker Trigger? Is the casting of Spark Double still apart of Rashmi and Ragavan resolution?
Can anyone help explain this scenario?
Liquidbeaver on
Ib Halfheart, Goblin Sac-tician [PRIMER]
11 months ago
Fiery Emancipation out for City on Fire: Because duh.
Rundvelt Hordemaster out for Solphim, Mayhem Dominus: I discovered after playing with Rundvelt once that the card doesn't say "may", so it is very easy to deck yourself during a boardwipe.
End the Festivities out for Brazen Cannonade: End isn't bad, I just caught myself always just throwing it on there just because, it isn't often going to do anything pivotal and the current path of the deck favors the big, boisterous, risky plays.
For once I also have an idea where my next swaps will come from: Professional Face-Breaker/Rain of Riches/Rose Room Treasurer. Of these 3 I think Rose Room Treasurer has actually performed the best, Rain has been too costly, and Face-breaker doesn't trigger all that often as most of my combats are attempting an alpha strike on the board. I would love to trade these out for other treasure generators that fit the bill.
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EDH Ganax, Astral Hunter & Tavern Brawler
1 year ago
Braid of Fire replaced with Rain of Riches
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