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Ethereal Forager
Creature — Elemental Whale
Delve (Each card you exile from your graveyard while casting this spell pays for .)
Flying
Whenever Ethereal Forager attacks, you may return an instant or sorcery card exiled with Ethereal Forager to its owner's hand.
Yesterday on Can a copied Ethereal Forager …
3 years ago
Polaris, side note, Ethereal Forager has linked abilities. Its triggered ability which returns cards from exile can only return cards that it exiled with its prior ability printed on the Forager that exiles cards. Exiling an instant or sorcery card with a creature's ability, then turning that creature into a copy of Ethereal Forager, (disappointingly) won't allow you to use the Forager's triggered ability to return that exiled instant or sorcery card to your hand.
Polaris on Can a copied Ethereal Forager …
3 years ago
No. When a card uses its name, it means "this object." Flickering Ethereal Forager will make it a new permanent, unlinked with the cards exiled when it was originally cast. The same applies if you cast another Ethereal Forager; each will have its own stack of cards it can return from, and they aren't shared. A card or token that's a copy of Ethereal Forager won't have any exiled cards to draw from at all, unless it had some other ability that exiled something (for example, if you turned a Living Lore or Izzet Chemister into a copy of Ethereal Forager after exiling an instant or sorcery with it).
Cards that bypass this restriction, such as Karn, Scion of Urza or Haldan, Avid Arcanist , will use some other way to keep track of what cards they're allowed to use.
Folk_lore on Can a copied Ethereal Forager …
3 years ago
Ethereal Forager has delve and when it attacks it allows you to return a card exiled with Ethereal Forager to your hand. If you play another Ethereal Forager or copy the original, can you return spells exiled with the first with the second? Does the same answer hold true if you flicker an Ethereal Forager, can you still return the spells you exiled when you cast it?
zamiero on Vial and Ghost!
3 years ago
3> Ahhh I've been wanting to play with Obosh, the Preypiercer and Angrath's Marauders - glad you found a spot for them. While you're at it, you could also consider other "damage doublers" such as Wound Reflection and Fiendish Duo. I've thought about a Vial-Smasher deck with a White partner just to add Gisela, Blade of Goldnight.
3> I see you enjoy big monsters and X-spells here. Oh to be young again... but seriously, this seems like a good deck to play them in as you would be rewarded. Instants are your friend, as you can Smash Vials on everyone's turn! No Comet Storm?
3> I would be worried about Vial-Smasher getting nuked from orbit as soon as your turn passes and it's no longer indestructible. You'll find Heroic Intervention and Slippery Bogbonder will help with targeted Exile removal. You already have Destroy and Sacrifice covered I see.
3> I see some cost-reduced and commander-free spells in there, but you have a limited suite. While doing research for my thoughts on Vial-Smasher, I found the following might be helpful - list is just copy/paste, so it will include some White and/or Blue cards:
- 3- Offalsnout (evoke B)
- 3- Rushwood Legate (opponent control island)
- 4- Skyshroud Cutter (control forest, opponents gain life)
- 4- Frogmite (artifacts battlefield)
- 4- Bone Picker (creature dies)
- 4- Briarhorn (evoke 1G)
- 4- Deepwood Legate (opponent control forest)
- 5- Stormwing Entity (cast instant/sorcery)
- 5- Ingot Chewer (evoke R)
- 5- Shriekmaw (evoke 1B)
- 5- Glarewielder (evoke 1R)
- 5- Mulldrifter (evoke 2U)
- 6- Igneous Elemental (land graveyard)
- 6- Nemesis of Mortals (greatures graveyard)
- 6- AEthersnipe (evoke 1UU)
- 6- Spitebellows (evoke 1RR)
- 6- Cloudthresher (evoke 2GG)
- 6- Hooting Mandrills (cards graveyard)
- 6- Ethereal Forager (cards graveyard)
- 6- Soulflayer (cards graveyard)
- 6- Sultai Scavenger (cards graveyard)
- 6- Tasigur, the Golden Fang (cards graveyard)
- 6- Salvage Titan (sacrifice three artifacts)
- 6- Sawtusk Demolisher (creature battlefield)
- 6- Shatterskull Minotaur (party)
- 6- Somber Hoverguard (artifacts battlefield)
- 6- Veteran Adventurer (party)
- 7- Gurmag Angler (cards graveyard)
- 7- Ore-Scale Guardian (lands graveyard)
- 7- Myr Enforcer (artifacts battlefield)
- 7- Cryptic Serpent (instant/sorcery graveyard)
- 7- Gearseeker Serpent (artifacts battlefield)
- 7- Quicksilver Behemoth (artifacts battlefield)
- 7- Dargo, the Shipwrecker (sacrifice artifacts/creatures)
- 7- Mournwhelk (evoke 3B)
- 7- Faultgrinder (evoke 4R)
- 8- Ghoultree (creatures graveyard)
- 8- Avatar of Woe (creatures graveyard)
- 8- Walker of the Grove (evoke 4G)
- 8- Shambling Attendants (cards graveyard)
- 8- Bedlam Reveler (instant/sorcery graveyard)
- 8- Qumulox (artifacts battlefield)
- 9- Molderhulk (creature graveyard)
- 9- Sibsig Muckdraggers (cards graveyard)
- 9- Necropolis Fiend (cards graveyard)
- 10+ Stratadon (basic land types)
- 10+ Primeval Protector (creatures battlefield)
- 10+ Ghalta, Primal Hunger (power of creatures battlefield)
- 10+ Draco (basic land types)
- 10+ The Great Henge (power of creatures battlefield)
- 10+ The Cauldron of Eternity (creatures graveyard)
3> I see some cost-reduced and commander-free spells in there, but you have a limited suite. While doing research for my thoughts on Vial-Smasher, I found the following might be helpful - list is just copy/paste, so it will include some White and/or Blue cards:
- 3- Light Up the Stage (opponent damage)
- 4- Reverent Silence (control forest, opponents gain life)
- 4- Snuff Out (control swamp, pay life)
- 4- Ensnare (return two islands)
- 4- Flameshot (discard mountain)
- 4- Outbreak (discard swamp)
- 4- Snag (discard forest)
- 4- Unmask (black card hand)
- 4- Ravenous Trap (opponent 3 cards enter graveyard)
- 4- Lethargy Trap (three creatures attacking)
- 4- Bolt Bend (4-power creature battlefield)
- 4- Massacre (opponent control plains)
- 4- Refreshing Rain (opponent control swamp)
- 4- Ricochet Trap (opponent cast blue)
- 4- Tentative Connection (menace creature battlefield)
- 4- Drag to the Underworld (devotion to black)
- 4- Snag (discard forest)
- 4- Hagra Mauling Flip (opponent has no basic lands)
- 4- Price of Fame (targets legend)
- 5- Bounty of the Hunt (green card hand)
- 5- Contagion (black card hand)
- 5- Force of Will (blue card hand)
- 5- Cave-In (red card hand)
- 5- Submerge (opponent control forest)
- 5- Gush (return two islands)
- 5- Misdirection (blue card hand)
- 5- Dark Triumph (sacrifice creature)
- 5- Thoughtcast (artifacts battlefield)
- 5- Murderous Cut (cards graveyard)
- 5- Rite of Undoing (cards graveyard)
- 5- Coveted Prize (party)
- 5- Deadly Alliance (party)
- 5- Baral's Expertise (cast CMC 4 or less)
- 6- Pyrokinesis (red card hand)
- 6- Fireblast (sacrifice two mountains)
- 6- Pulverize (sacrifice two mountains)
- 6- Into Thin Air (artifacts battlefield)
- 6- Tasigur's Cruelty (cards graveyard)
- 6- Spinning Darkness (black cards graveyard)
- 6- Become Immense (cards graveyard)
- 6- Set Adrift (cards graveyard)
- 6- Will of the Naga (cards graveyard)
- 6- Runeflare Trap (opponent drew 3 cards)
- 6- Zahid, Djinn of the Lamp (artifact battlefield)
- 6- Magmatic Sinkhole (cards graveyard)
- 6- Thwart the Grave (party)
- 6- Curtains' Call (per opponent)
- 6- Cobra Trap (noncreature destroyed by opponent)
- 6- Rishkar's Expertise (cast CMC 5 or less)
- 7- Divergent Transformations (per opponent)
- 7- Into the Story (opponent 7+ cards graveyard)
- 7- Assert Authority (artifacts battlefield)
- 7- Seeds of Renewal (per opponent)
- 7- Needlebite Trap (opponent gain life)
- 8- Treasure Cruise (cards graveyard)
- 9- Blasphemous Act (creatures battlefield)
- 10+ Dead Drop (cards graveyard)
- 10+ Volcanic Salvo (power of creatures battlefield) X
- 3- Chord of Calling (untapped creatures battlefield)
multimedia on Talrand master of drakes - [Primer]
3 years ago
Hey, good budget version of Talrand, nice Consecrated Sphinx .
Budget cards to consider adding:
Peregrine + Displace + Archaeomancer / Mnemonic Wall makes infinite blue mana from blinking Peregrine and infinite casts of Displace which equals infinite 2/2 Drakes from Talrand. Displace is an instant meaning can do this combo on an opponents turn and then attack with infinite Drakes on your turn.
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High Tide
: excellent ramp when playing so many Islands and cards that can recur it to cast it again. Can get more ramp out of Tide with Peregrine,
Frantic Search
,
Snap
as these cards let you untap Islands to make more mana.
- Bident of Thassa : more repeatable draw with 2/2 Drakes.
- Mystic Speculation : buyback.
- Capsize : buyback.
- Forbid : buyback.
- Brainstorm
- Impulse
- Serum Visions
- Reality Shift
- Reliquary Tower
Cards to consider cutting:
- Temple of the False God
- Spell Snuff
- Thought Collapse
- Of One Mind
- Dazzling Lights
- Stream of Thought
- String of Disappearances
- Unsummon
- Dictate of Kruphix
- Ethereal Forager
- Hieroglyphic Illumination
- Chemister's Insight
- Portal Mage
Good luck with your deck.
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