Crypt Creeper

Creature — Zombie

Sacrifice Crypt Creeper: Remove target card in a graveyard from the game.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pauper	Legal
Pauper Duel Commander	Legal
Pauper EDH	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Premodern	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (9)

Spell_Slam on Rotwidow's Spider Pack PDH

4 years ago

I love this deck. PDH games go long and your deck help stall out the board and wins through those stalls using your commander. It's a solid strategy.

You want to maximize your creature count as much as possible to take advantage of your commander. There are a few effects in your instants, sorceries and enchantments that could be replaced with creatures.

Crypt Creeper has a solid body and is basically like Scarab Feast. You could also try Faerie Macabre if you want to go for the free graveyard hate. No one expects that.

Diligent Farmhand makes sense in this build, even as a worse Sakura Tribe Elder.

I'm a big fan of Elvish Skysweeper in slow decks like this. The effect is expensive, but it can lock a player out of the game.

Because most of your creatures have a lot of toughness, this makes damage-based sweepers very strong. I would play the full gambit of Crypt Rats , Pestilence , Evincar's Justice and Gangrenous Zombies . Two of them are creatures, so that's a nice bonus.

Heart Warden is ramp that also turns into card draw later, like a Mind Stone.

Slum Reaper is great removal and puts a creature in your graveyard.

You could probably get some good value out of Mortician Beetle and Silumgar Scavenger .

Spore Frog is a good political tool that can encourage opponents to attack elsewhere. I could see it over Terrifying Presence, even if you lose on spider flavour.

Vulturous Aven is very similar to some of your card draw, but is has a body.

I think you should play Watcher in the Web and Oran-Rief Recluse in the maindeck. Watcher often feels like a fog while Recluse is great removal that usually has a target in multiplayer.

In terms of cuts, I don't understand Wildsize. You can also easily cut Spider Climb. Most of your creatures have reach already and +0/+3 is not great, even for 1 mana. Arachnus Web is also pretty weak removal. Rancor is a good card, but is it really useful for your game plan? How often will you win by attacking with your spiders? Naturalize feels a bit vanilla and could be replaced with another creature that gives you a similar effect. You also have quite a few cantripping creatures that I don't quite get the purpose of. Are they chump blockers? You have quite a bit of card advantage in black already. Wander in Death could be Death Denied or Reaping the Graves instead.

jchudz on

6 years ago

For zombies: Prized Amalgam, Shepherd of Rot, maybe a Siren of the Silent Song for some discard stax, Withered Wretch/Crypt Creeper for additional gy hate , Cryptbreaker, Lich Lord of Unx , Lord of the Accursed, Vesper Ghoul

for more interaction/stax : Windfall, Tangle Wire, Smokestack, Contamination, Stasis, Winter Orb, Magus of the Abyss

TheSurgeon on Dead: Legion Elite

7 years ago

Yoshiman- First, thank you for the feedback. Second, thank you for the upvote!

Funny you mention Cryptbreaker. When I first saw the card I actually wanted to build this with it in here. But I don't have any, so when I went to build this I thought the name was 2 words, and couldn't find it. What I did find was Crypt Creeper, and couldn't understand why I didn't like the card anymore. LOL

Thanks! Perhaps I'll work it into the next build, I don't have any, so give me some time.

Go forth, and conquer!

MagicalHacker on Win? I Just Want to Ultimate! (Liliana, Hereti...)

8 years ago

Trtl, after considering that someone could just Clone/Reanimate my Vampire Hexmage to Hero's Downfall my commander, it could be more of a liability than an asset. To a lesser extent, Crypt Creeper could prove to be used similarly against my strategy, so I don't think I need a second Heap Doll.

Out:

Vampire Hexmage
Crypt Creeper

In:

Bloodthrone Vampire
Dross Hopper

Trtl on Win? I Just Want to Ultimate! (Liliana, Hereti...)

8 years ago

I recommend keeping Vampire Hexmage to stop Simic decks and other planeswalkers dead in their tracks (if they are common in your meta, otherwise ignore this message). I agree the combo isn't likely enough and you should see about dropping Crypt Creeper for Bloodthrone Vampire at the least.

MagicalHacker on Win? I Just Want to Ultimate! (Liliana, Hereti...)

8 years ago

Getting the winning loop of Liliana, Heretical Healer  ^Flip's emblem plus Gray Merchant of Asphodel/Kokusho, the Evening Star plus a sac outlet has been happening much too infrequently for my tastes.

Would replacing Vampire Hexmage and Crypt Creeper with Bloodthrone Vampire and Dross Hopper be a poor direction?

MagicalHacker on Win? I Just Want to Ultimate! (Liliana, Hereti...)

8 years ago

Thanks for commenting on the deck! I knew you could offer tons of advice :D

The nice thing about Blood Pet, Crypt Creeper, and all the other selfsacrificers is that they give Liliana, Defiant Necromancer a -2, a -1, or even a 0 of "Each opponent sacrifices a creature," when I have Grave Pact, Butcher of Malakir, or Dictate of Erebos out. Even though Slum Reaper can do that at -4 and Merciless Executioner and Fleshbag Marauder can do that at -3 without those extra cards, they can't flip Lili the turn she is played as early as possible, and I think that an extra turn is pretty important.

Do you think I need more graveyard hate? I like how Heap Doll, Crypt Creeper, and Nezumi Graverobber can function as oppressive graveyard hate, but theyre still good cards without having to go against a graveyard-based strategy, which I feel like is Withered Wretch's biggest downside: it becomes a dead card against decks that don't do much from the graveyard.

Extinguish All Hope is a bit of a sad card, but it's one of the few boardwipes below seven mana that isn't more than five tix (which is why I am not playing Toxic Deluge, Damnation, Oblivion Stone, etc.). It's not very efficient, but desperate times calls for desperate measures. Also, are board wipes that ignore me really worth waiting until that high mana cost can be paid? I would figure a reanimator deck could handle getting wiped.

I'll make a test version with the following changes and let you know how it goes:

Blood Pet, Crypt Creeper, and Extinguish All Hope out for Slum Reaper, Withered Wretch, and In Garruk's Wake. I look forward to your feedback!

In both decks, I'm actually taking out Phyrexian Denouncer for Coretapper because I don't like waiting to sacrifice. Sometimes waiting one more turn is the difference between a win and a loss.

CuteSnail on Win? I Just Want to Ultimate! (Liliana, Hereti...)

8 years ago

Blood Pet only serves to flip Lili, that 1 for 1 isn't advancing your state. Even in a reanimator shell returning it seems lackluster. I prefer Slum Reaperand co. for flipping Lili.

I see that Crypt Creeper flips Lili, but I'd test Withered Wretch in its place. It's superior grave hate, but inferior sac fodder.

Extinguish All Hope is an expert wrath that doesn't give you any advantage. I'd swap it for either Toxic Deluge or Plague Wind\In Garruk's Wake.

I whole heartedly approve of Deadly Tempest. I'll have to pick one up for my lili. Which, has turned into a more reanimator deck.

Hope I helped. I may return and offter more help later.