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Crumbling Sanctuary
Artifact
For each 1 damage that would be dealt to a player, that player removes the top card of his or her library from the game instead.
wallisface on Mono Red Control/Mill (Premodern)
1 week ago
I’m not familiar in the premodern format, but this list seems to be doing a lot of things that feel weak/wrong.
Crumbling Sanctuary feels very weak, in that its basically saying to the opponent “hey you know how you had 20 life… now you effectively have around 45-50”. I get this impacts your own life total as well, but with no cards in your deck to profit from being in the graveyard, and no other cards that naturally mill (outside of Book Burning) before you drop this 5-mana arifact, i don’t see how this card helps you… it’s much more likely to benefit your opponent.
Cards that let your opponent choose an option are considered pretty-universally terrible. This is because the opponent will always choose the option that benefits you the least, meaning the card will always be doing the weakest of its effects.
Your mana curve feels excessively high. I don’t know the format well but it feels adjacent to modern/pioneer, and in that regard your mana curve is far too high. Your quantity of 4-5 mana spells is excessive, but also I see no way you’re ever realistically casting either Butcher Orgg or Avatar of Fury.
boq-condor on Umbris, Deck Eater
2 years ago
Coward_Token, Crumbling Sanctuary was in my original list but I was worried about the backlash of it impacting my deck as well. It might get added back in though.
Rocketman988, I still need to playtest, I play mostly tabletop EDH with friends so I will have to see what works. Thanks for the suggestions!
Coward_Token on Umbris, Deck Eater
2 years ago
Crumbling Sanctuary was mentioned in the Command Zone video, could be fun.
unwucht on Omnath, A Song of Creation and Chaos
3 years ago
So I got a nice success story to share: first round on spelltable, I played a gouphug/groupslug deck and an Esper enchantment control deck. The Esper guy manages to get a Crumbling Sanctuary on the field early game. All opponents have like 88 cards in their library left. I managed to get Purphoros on the field and exiled their complete libraries. That was such a tremendouns performance, I do not regret putting Purphy in the deck any more.
zAzen7977 on ULTIMATE TINKER 2021
3 years ago
ClockworkSwordfish, darn! Thanks for letting me know and citing the rule. I’ll take out Crumbling Sanctuary.
alechodgin23 on
4 years ago
I'd also recommend Mindcrank over Crumbling Sanctuary . It's cheaper and much better
Rasaru on
4 years ago
Thanks for the advice and information, triproberts12. Not sure how I missed that Paradox Engine was banned... If I were to throw in Ashiok, Dream Render , Syr Konrad, the Grim and Crumbling Sanctuary , which cards would you recommend removing?
triproberts12 on
4 years ago
Paradox Engine is amazing, which is why it was banned from the format about a year ago. Memory Erosion is probably the best quality mill card, although Altar of the Brood is good for being a turn-1 play. I think Ashiok, Dream Render and Sir Konrad, the Grim are a pretty solid alternate win-con, though, especially if you were to throw Crumbling Sanctuary in.