Yedora, Grave Gardener infinite combos with cards like Natural Affinity?

Asked by CamraMaan 1 year ago

Thelonite Druid is clear in its rulings that it only affects lands on the BF as it resolves. Is this the same for Natural Affinity? Like, if I a sac a Forest creature, will Yedora, Grave Gardener make it come back as another Forest creature, or just as a Forest? What about Jolrael, Empress of Beasts? My assumption is that they all will only affect the lands in play when the effect/spell resolves, but I want to be sure I'm not missing something that makes one different from another. Thanks in advance! :)

CamraMaan says... #1

In particular, I'm hoping Natural Affinity and Jolrael, Empress of Beasts affect new lands in play, only because of their ability to also screw over opponents in the case of a board/creature wipe. But my assumption is that I'll be outta luck on this one.

April 6, 2023 7:56 a.m.

Rhadamanthus says... Accepted answer #2

They only affect objects on the battlefield as they resolve. If a resolving spell/ability changes the characteristics of objects (type, color, P/T, abilities, etc.), the set of objects it affects is locked in at the time it resolves. Other objects that show up later won't be affected.

However, a continuous effect from a static ability that changes characteristics of objects will always apply to any eligible object. An effect like Living Lands, for example, will apply to the cards that Yedora brings back as Forests.

Another interesting example for that last part: this is why Underworld Breach is implemented as an Enchantment. If it was a Sorcery then you'd have to keep track of what cards were in the graveyard at the time it resolved vs. what entered the graveyard after that point and it would just be kind of a hassle and open up opportunities for mistakes.

April 6, 2023 8:54 a.m.

CamraMaan says... #3

Yeah, that's what I figured. Appreciated!

April 6, 2023 3:51 p.m.

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