Rona, Herald of Invasion Flip and Path of Ancestry interaction
Asked by koylucumert 4 months ago
lets say rona is my commander and I have a path of ancestry in play. when I use that path to cast Sheoldred, Whispering One (who is erratad to be a phyrexian), do I get to scry since rona is a phyrexian on the back side? does the answer change if I have ronas backside on the battlefield as I cast the sheoldred?
Rhadamanthus says... #2
A note on the last comment above: Path of Ancestry will be able to "know" the commander's creature types if it's in a hidden zone. This is addressed by a specific rule:
903.3e If an effect refers to a characteristic of “your commander,” it can find the appropriate player’s commander and see its current characteristics, as modified by continuous effects and other rules, in all zones, including that player’s library and hand.
January 2, 2024 12:18 p.m.
wallisface says... #3
Rhadamanthus nice catch - looks like they changed those rules in the recent ”Phyrexia All Will Be One” release and I was working with old information
wallisface says... Accepted answer #1
If your Commander is anywhere that is not the Battlefield, only the front face exists. However, if it is on the battlefield and transformed, only the back face exists.
So, in the case of Sheoldred, Whispering One, you’ll only get to scry if Rona is on the battlefield and transformed. Note that while Rona is transformed this way, she’s not a “human”, so you won’t be able to scry off any humans you cast.
Also note that if your Commander is in a Hidden Zone, Path of Ancestry can't "see" it so it will not know what creature types it has. In that case, you won't scry no matter what you cast.
January 2, 2024 3:59 a.m.