More Mairsil, the Pretender questions!

Asked by chosenone124 6 years ago

1 I cast Mairsil, the Pretender exiling Demonmail Hauberk with a cage counter. It's my only creature. Can I sacrifice Mairsil to try to equip it to itself? Can I sacrifice another creature to try to equip him to himself?

Just a note: the Gatherer page seems to state that you can activate equip abilities, but Mairsil doesn't attach.

2 If Maersil exiles Figure of Destiny can it become the 8/8 Kithkin Spirit (eventually)?

3 If he exiles Kazandu Tuskcaller, can he tap to make 2 Elephants even though he has no level counters? Also, if I cast Venerated Teacher will Maersil gain level counters?

4 If he copies Mischievous Quanar can he facedown himself?

5 If Maersil exiles Myr Welder and Prototype Portal with Cage Counters. Can he use Prototype Portal to copy cards he exiled with Myr Welder's Imprint?

acbooster says... Accepted answer #1

  1. I think this rule will tell what you need for this one. 301.5c An Equipment thats also a creature cant equip a creature. An Equipment that loses the subtype Equipment cant equip a creature. An Equipment cant equip itself. An Equipment that equips an illegal or nonexistent permanent becomes unattached from that permanent but remains on the battlefield. (This is a state-based action. See rule 704.) An Equipment cant equip more than one creature. If a spell or ability would cause an Equipment to equip more than one creature, the Equipments controller chooses which creature it equips.

  2. Yes. Provided that the right creature types are there, Mairsil can advance to the 8/8.

  3. He would not. Kazandu Tuskcaller and other levelers do not have the other abilities unless they have the right number of counters.

  4. Yes he can, there's no issue with that ability.

  5. No. Prototype Portal's ability is linked specifically to the card that it exiles when it enters the battlefield. Cards exiled by the ability from Myr Welder will not be able to be copied, despite both abilities coming from the same source.

August 29, 2017 3:22 a.m. Edited.

BlueScope says... #2

Everything above is correct, but I'm going to add a bit of information:

  1. While, as has been established, nothing happens on resolution, you are certainly free from activating those abilities, even sacrificing Mairsil to equip itself, which would never happen. The only kind of actual use for this would be to save it from a Song of the Dryads, or something of that sort, though.
  2. If you're doing this in the Commander format, keep in mind that Figure of Destiny with its WR color identity isn't legal to include in a deck that has Mairsil as the Commander
  3. "Level up" is an activated ability, so yes, Mairsil will have that ability and Venerated Teacher will put counters on it. And again, you wouldn't be able to play Kazandu Tuskcaller in this Commander deck due to its G color identity.
  4. You can turn it face-down, but never face-up again until it leaves the battlefield (and is therefore turned face-up automatically) because Morph isn't an activated ability, therefore Mairsil won't have it, and you won't get to take the special action of unmorphing it
August 29, 2017 5:32 a.m.

Neotrup says... #3

And a bit more:1. Keep in mind you may only equip as a sorcery, so it's not even particularly good at stoping Song of the Dryads or the like.

  1. No matter how many level counters Mairsil, the Pretender gets, he will never inherit the tap abilities of Kazandu Tuskcaller or any other activated abilities that level up creatures only have when they're leveled up.

  2. Worse than that, while Mairsil, the Pretender is face-down, he has no inherited abilities. Even if Morph was an activated ability he wouldn't have it.

August 29, 2017 11:11 a.m.

chosenone124 says... #4

Thanks! Just a note: I'm thinking about the Demonmail Hauberk if I can get one of the infinite reanimation comboes I'm thinking of out, and hoping to use Maeirsil as a sacrifice outlet (he'd have to sacrifice himself unfortunately)

For the level up card, I was thinking of Echo Mage but that would make the question more complex. It doesn't work anyway :(

August 29, 2017 10:20 p.m.

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