How do equipment Buffs work with Mannichi, the fevered dream.

Asked by moo1234 3 years ago

I could ask a million questions about how Mannichi, the Fevered Dream but they all probably get answered by this question.

If I attach Slagwurm Armor to mannichi. It becomes a 1/8 then I switch it's power and toughness. It will become an 8/1. Then I unattach slagwurm armour, since it was supposed to give a toughness buff does it stay an 8/1, if so can I then reattach the armour to give it another +0/+6 buff making it an 8/7. If so at end of turn does it go back to being a 1/8 or a 7/8

If unattaching the armour removes the "+6/+0" buff and then reattach it (making minnichi a 2/7) at end of turn when it switches back does it become a 7/2

Sorry if that's confusing. If you want me to reword the question, or if I'm completely wrong please let me know

Tylord2894 says... Accepted answer #1

The most straightforward way of thinking about Mannichi is that you apply its P/T switching ability last.

P/T is determined in Layer 7, which has a number of sublayers. We have to apply all the effects from one sublayer before moving to the next one. Luckily, Layer 7 is the easiest Layer to understand. In the first sublayer, we consider characteristic-defining abilities (CDAs), like that of Tarmagoyf. In the next sublayer, we consider P/T setting effects, like that of Scale Up. In the third sublayer, we consider all buff/debuff effects, like your Slagwurm Armor as well as counters. In the fourth and final sublayer, we consider P/T switching effects.

Let's run through an example. Let's say your Ancient Crab is out with 2 +1/+1 counters, has Slagwurm Armor equip, and is affected by Mannichi. Nothing happens in the first two sublayers. In the third sublayer, there are 3 effects to apply. We apply all of these effects in "timestamp" (roughly chronological) order. Let's say the counters happened first. So, the Crab will go from being a 1/5 to a 3/7 to a 3/13. In the last sublayer, you switch the power and toughness, and the Crab becomes a 13/3. Should you unequip the Armor, the Crab will be a 7/3.

Hope this helps!!

August 19, 2020 10:46 a.m.

moo1234 says... #2

Yep Thanks really helpful but it still hurts my brain if I think about it for too long!

August 19, 2020 11:30 a.m.

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