Eye of the Storm and self exiling cards
Asked by AkrosTheClear 6 years ago
So if I have Eye of the Storm out on the battlefield and I play a sorcery that exiles itself, let's say Praetor's Counsel does it still trigger Eye of the Storm and can now be copied every time someone plays an instant or sorcery? If yes, does the same thing happen to cards that get buried in the library like Green Sun's Zenith?
Monomanamaniac says... #2
As a side note, if you have 2 eye of the storm in play, you can exile a spell with one of them, and through ability manipulation with the stack you can cause the player to have to play from either pool, so you simply put a derp card like Think Twice on one, exile all spells with the other, then when your opponent tries to play a spell it gets exiled and they get to think twice instead lol. Additionally you can still use them together normally, as simply not manipulating the stack will cause it to work normally. I'm not 100 sure why it works, but that's what an actual wizards employee told us about it.
November 30, 2017 6:21 p.m.
Tyrant-Thanatos says... #3
Monomanamaniac, what?
If Player A has two Eye of the Storms out and a player casts an instant or sorcery, both Eyes trigger. Player A can put them on the stack in any order they want, the first to resolve will exile the casted spell and then cause the caster to copy each spell under it, then the second will resolve, and while unable to exile the original spell, it would still force the caster to copy all of its spells as well...
November 30, 2017 6:26 p.m.
chosenone124 says... #4
Tyrant-Thanatos doesn't the term "then" mean that if the spell isn't exiled the rest of Eye of the Storm's trigger doesn't work?
November 30, 2017 9:38 p.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #5
No, "then" just indicates the instructions you're given will happen in a certain order. "If you do" or something similar would indicate that the later instructions are dependent on something that happened in an earlier one, but that's now how Eye of the Storm is written.
@Monomanamaniac: I don't know who you heard that from, but that's not how it works. Was it a Wizards customer service rep? They've been known to make mistakes on complicated rules questions. Tyrant-Thanatos has the right explanation.
Tyrant-Thanatos says... Accepted answer #1
Eye of the Storm's triggered ability goes onto the stack above the spell that triggered it, and exiles it before it can even resolve. So Praetor's Counsel is exiled by Eye of the Storm before it even has a chance to resolve and exile itself.
Green Sun's Zenith is in a similar boat, it would never get shuffled back in, because it is exiled before it resolves. As a card with an X in its cost though, the free versions that EotS pumps out will always have X=0.
November 30, 2017 3:49 p.m.