ETB - Create one ore two tokens (Obeka, Kiki-Jiki, Phyrexian Dreadnought & Minamo, School at Water's Edge)

Asked by Nekra 3 years ago

Hello, I would like to do the following: 1. Use Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker to create a token (1) of Phyrexian Dreadnought . 2. Use Minamo, School at Water's Edge to untap Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker 3. Use Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker , to create a token (2) of Phyrexian Dreadnought . 4. End the turn with Obeka, Brute Chronologist to safe both token. All 4 cards are already in game.

I am sure that i can create a token one time and immediately end the turn with Obeka to safe the copy of Phyrexian Dreadnought. But what about a second token?

Polaris says... #1

Since all of these are instant speed abilities, yes, you can activate them in response to the Phyrexian Dreadnought ETB trigger. You can get and keep both copies.

March 13, 2021 11 a.m.

Neotrup says... Accepted answer #2

It is important to note that Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker 's delayed triggered ability will still ask you to sacrifice them at the beginning of the next end step. Since you're presumably doing these actions during your own turn and skipping right past the end step, these will trigger during your opponent's end step, and Obeka, Brute Chronologist will already be tapped. This may make saving the tokens difficult, but they will be around to block during that turn.

Alternatively, you can respond to Phyrexian Dreadnought 's triggered ability by creating a second one as you described, sacrifice the first to the second one's ETB, and sacrifice nothing to the first one's ETB since it's already gone. When you get to the end step, you can activate Obeka to exile Kiki-Jiki 's ability and get 1 permanent copy of Phyrexian Dreadnought .

March 13, 2021 11:06 a.m.

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