Does deathtouch apply excess noncombat damage?

Asked by Yesterday 6 months ago

I control a Toralf, God of Fury  Flip, and a Ghyrson Starn, Kelermorph equipped with a Gorgon's Head. I deal exactly 1 damage to an opponent's Fortified Rampart, causing Ghyrson to shoot it for 2. The Rampart takes 2 damage from a source with deathtouch, then dies when SBAs are checked. Was that Rampart dealt excess damage, considering only 1 damage would have been sufficient to kill it?

Likewise, I control a Soulflayer with deathtouch and trample. In combat, it gets blocked by the Fortified Rampart. I have the option of assigning only 1 damage to the Rampart and the rest to the defending player, since the 1 damage with deathtouch would be lethal. If I choose to assign 2 damage to the Rampart and 2 to the defensing player, have I dealt excess damage to the Rampart?

I'm currently assuming no to both, but would love to be wrong.

Caerwyn says... Accepted answer #1

In both cases, this will be considered excess damage.

Rule 120.4a specifically states this: "Any amount of damage greater than 1 is excess damage if the source dealing that damage to a creature has deathtouch."

November 7, 2023 6:28 p.m.

wallisface says... #2

Like Caerwyn has already mentioned, both scenarios will count as dealing excess damage.

However, do note that Toralf, God of Fury  Flip specifically asks for excess noncombat damage, so won’t trigger off your second scenario, as the damage being dealt is combat damage.

November 7, 2023 8:44 p.m.

Yesterday says... #3

That's awesome news. Thanks.

November 8, 2023 12:20 a.m.

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