Does bouncing Phabine, Boss's Confidant, at Combat Declaration and resolution of Parley summoning Tokens and +1/+1 boosts; result in the Tokens not being able to attack that turn?

Asked by Namineus 1 year ago

If I have a Phabine, Boss's Confidant enters the battle field after I have 5 Token creatures summoned via Martial Coup, then move to Declare combat phase, no interactions are declared and I declare Parley; which resolves, and I get 2 more token creatures and a bonus +2/+2 until end of turn. Only as I move to declare attackers, an opponent chooses to Bounce Phabine. Does this result in all of the token creatures losing Haste, therefore being Summoning Sick, or would the 5 already on board from the previous main phase have had the summoning sick condition cleared prior to combat phase? I could understand the 2 summoned during combat phase no longer having the effect, as it could have been held up as the Parley effect resolving being the trigger they chose to bounce on, but the 5 token creatures already on the field?

Gidgetimer says... Accepted answer #1

Creatures always have summoning sickness until their controller's next turn after they were summoned. Haste lets them ignore this rule, but does not "remove" it. A creature without haste can not attack on the same turn they were summoned. It doesn't matter if they had it and then lost it.

302.6. A creature’s activated ability with the tap symbol or the untap symbol in its activation cost can’t be activated unless the creature has been under its controller’s control continuously since their most recent turn began. A creature can’t attack unless it has been under its controller’s control continuously since their most recent turn began. This rule is informally called the “summoning sickness” rule.

702.10b If a creature has haste, it can attack even if it hasn’t been controlled by its controller continuously since their most recent turn began. (See rule 302.6.)

702.10c If a creature has haste, its controller can activate its activated abilities whose cost includes the tap symbol or the untap symbol even if that creature hasn’t been controlled by that player continuously since their most recent turn began. (See rule 302.6.)

July 16, 2022 5:24 p.m.