Corpsejack Menace rulings

Asked by pride777 8 years ago

An argument i had that i seem to be wrong about but wanted to have a second opinion

My opponent had 2 Corpsejack Menace out on the battlefield. on his turn he scavanged Dreg Mangler and somehow both of his Corpsejack Menace now had +12/+12 on them making them a total of 16/16, to recap he had 2 of this Corpsejack Menace and scavenged 1 Dreg Mangler. can someone please fill me in on if this is right and if so how, and if its wrong if so how, thanks so much!

TheGreatLiar says... Accepted answer #1

The ability of his Corpsejack Menace stacks, so one replacement effect will see 3 counters about to be placed and double that to six, the other replacement effect will see 6 counters about to be placed and double that. So one (1) of his creatures gets 12 +1/+1 counters.

There is nothing on these cards that would gives counters to both menaces from one scavenged creature. Somebody didn't rtfc.

April 20, 2016 5:30 p.m.

Denial048 says... #2

Just to back up TheGreatLiar, there is nothing about this where BOTH Corpsejack Menace would have gained counters. Sure, one of them would have gotten 12 counters off the single scavenge, but there is not way for them both to get them.

April 20, 2016 9:27 p.m.

darkmatter32x says... #3

You don't put counters on corpsejack menace, it is the creature gaining the counter. So for this instance only one will get the counters not both

April 20, 2016 10:44 p.m. Edited.

Perhaps his confusion was since there were 2 of the same card, he assumed that both would get the same amount of counters. This is never the case. Only the card that is specifically targeted with Scavenge will get the counters.

Since the two replacement effects can apply to these counters, only the targeted Menace will get 3x2x2=12 counters.

April 21, 2016 11:03 a.m.

pride777 says... #5

Thanks for the quick answer, i was half right and wrong, i thought it would be 9 counters instead of 12, but i think the opponent also was wrong as he took Dreg Mangler and scavenged the 3 counters but somehow split up the counters to go to two creatures instead of 1, the 2 creatures being both of the Corpsejack Menace Lastly correct me if i'm wrong but that was our last arguement, i don't think you can split up scavenge tokens on more then 1 creature. For instance Dreg Mangler you can't take 2 tokens on 1 card and the last token to another

April 21, 2016 2:05 p.m.

TheGreatLiar says... #6

No, you cannot split the counters. "Target creature" in this instance is limited to 1 target creature.

When you can split counters or damage or anything of the sort among targets, it will be clear that there are multiple targets, or "up to" a certain number of targets.

April 21, 2016 2:10 p.m.

darkmatter32x says... #7

Scavenge ability states "target creature" it doesn't state that you can divide it.

April 21, 2016 2:11 p.m.

TheGreatLiar says... #8

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Thanks.

April 21, 2016 3:32 p.m.

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