Can I tap creatures two turns in a row?
Asked by thegigibeast 9 years ago
Here is the situation and how I think everything resolves. Could someone explain me if I am wrong and how it actually resolves, or why if I am right? Thanks in advance!
Ok, so I have an Ivory Giant coming from the exile (suspended), so it has haste. I decide to attack with it, then I play a Nemesis Trap on it for 
. I put a token onto the battlefield that is a copy of it (so I think the token has haste?), and then I attack with the token for 3 damage in your face the same turn. Is everything ok?
If I am not mistaken you will deal no damage at all and waste a creature and a spell at the same time. This is because during your declare attacker step you declare Ivory Giant attacking of which in response to their declare blockers step after they have chosen to block or not you put Nemesis Trap on the stack exiling your own Ivory Giant before damage step and placing a token copy of Ivory Giant onto the battlefield, without haste I might add, after you have already declared attackers. So unless you have an additional combat step you have done nothing but waste 2 creatures and a instant spell. Now that being said if you used this on Aurelia, the Warleader for instance you would have multiple combat steps in one turn. Or you can use this combo for damage dealers or control aspects but not in the way you are trying.
April 4, 2015 11:09 p.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #3
This can't happen exactly as described, and the others have already explained why. To answer the part of your question that didn't get addressed: A card only does what it says. The first Ivory Giant will tap all nonwhite creatures when it enters the battlefield. The copy will do the same thing when it enters the battlefield... which will result in nothing really happening, since all the nonwhite creatures are already tapped because of the first Giant. Those creatures will untap normally when they're supposed to because nothing about Ivory Giant's ability says otherwise.
April 4, 2015 11:59 p.m.
thegigibeast says... #4
Thanks for the answers! But what if, for example, I attack with the Ivory Giant when it comed fron suspend, then I exile it only the turn after with Nemesis Trap??? Would it be possible? Would it be better if I throw in hasty creatures or even dash to attack while everything is tapped this way?
April 5, 2015 9:24 a.m.
It's possible, but I'm not sure what you're trying to do here. You don't have anything to gain from casting Nemesis Trap on your Giant, except tapping all non-white creatures again - the copy will never have haste without further help, you will always lose your (attacking) creature indefinitely, and the token you create will be exiled at the end of turn.
Nemesis Trap was made to get rid of your opponent's creatures. It will benefit you if you target your own creature with it in weird situations, such as if an opponent casts Searing Blood on your Mulldrifter (gaining you a net profit of 2 cards and 3 prevented damage to you), but in general, this will be pretty useless.
Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #1
You only get one declare attackers step per combat phase, and you must declare all attacking creatures as a turn-based action at the beginning of that step. You can't declare additional attackers later.
Also, the token you create will not have haste. Copy effects copy only what is written on the card as well as anything added by applicable copy effects.
April 4, 2015 11:08 p.m.