Can I choose what goes on the stack first at the beginning of my upkeep? (Suspend and Triggered abilities)

Asked by BubbleMahn 9 years ago

I'm wondering which order I check effects and/or cast things leaving suspend.

In this scenario, I have 43 life, Test of Endurance on the battlefield and a Heroes Remembered with it's last time counter on it. (Let's assume every action which follows is not countered or responded to in any way.)

At the beginning of my next upkeep, can I remove the last time counter from Heroes Remembered and cast it before Test of Endurance's triggered ability goes on the stack?

(I'm pretty sure that when multiple triggered abilities can go on the stack at one given time, in this case it's the removal of the last time counter and that of the enchantment, the current player can choose which order they go on the stack.)

filledelanuit says... #1

You can choose the order of abilities that would go on the stack if they would go on to the stack at the same time.

However in this situation Test of Endurance would never trigger. It has an intervening if clause which means that it won't trigger unless you have 50 or more life. An intervening if clause means that the ability only triggers if the condition is true. It also check to see if the trigger is true when it resolves. If it isn't true then it won't do anything.

November 16, 2014 6:39 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #2

No. Always check the Gatherer rulings before asking a question.

10/4/2004: To win the game, you must have 50 or more life both at the beginning of upkeep and when the ability resolves.

Test of Endurance has an intervening "if" clause, which means that it checks the stated condition both at the time the ability would trigger and at the time the ability would resolve. Because you don't have 50 life at the time the ability would trigger, the ability doesn't trigger.

Also, you can't resolve the suspend ability before Test of Endurance's ability would go onto the stack. Assuming Test of Endurance's ability did trigger, you would need to stack Test of Endurance's ability and the triggered suspend ability. If you stack the suspend ability above Test of Endurance's ability, then you cast the suspended spell before Test of Endurance's ability resolves. But you can't cast the spell before the ability would go onto the stack.

November 16, 2014 6:42 p.m.

BubbleMahn says... #3

Sorry for asking so many questions, I'll do my best to find the answers online.

November 17, 2014 1:07 a.m.

BubbleMahn says... #4

Could I choose which resolves first, except with Celestial Convergence's triggered ability? If I have a Celestial Convergence with one omen counter left on it, and Heroes Remembered with it's last time counter, during my upkeep could I put Heroes Remembered's triggered ability on the stack before Convergence's triggered abliity?

November 21, 2014 4:15 a.m.

BubbleMahn says... #5

Sorry, I guess what I mean to say is, can I have Heroes Remembered's triggered ability resolve before Celestial Convergence's? Going by what lordoftheshadows said, I think I'd be able to in this case, cause Convergence's triggered ability would resolve before it would check for a player having the highest life total.

November 21, 2014 4:22 a.m.

Epochalyptik says... #6

Yes. If you control multiple abilities that have triggered since the last time a player received priority, then you choose the order in which they are placed onto the stack.

November 21, 2014 4:56 a.m.

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