In defense of Veil of Summer
Modern forum
Posted on Dec. 9, 2022, 10:52 a.m. by Youvegotplasticinyourlungs
Blue and Black are very powerful and overrepresented in the format and creature decks are already underpowered. Veil of summer is just giving Creature Decks some breathing room, however it is too much for formats like Pioneer where Green is the Best color.
Dead_Blue_ says... #3
Lol there is a certian joy I get from countering Veil of Summer
December 9, 2022 11:17 a.m.
TheOfficialCreator says... #4
That's another good point. It is hilarious to see it fizzle.
December 9, 2022 11:34 a.m.
I think that given the power of former staple Cryptic Command and current staples like Force of Negation, Aether Gust, and Grief; that Veil is just a necessary evil in Modern so that there is some counter to these cards. Like Teferi, Time Raveler in that it's too much for the smaller Pioneer cardpool but needed in the larger one unless they want to ban whole swaths of cards.
December 9, 2022 12:15 p.m.
Dead_Blue_ says... #6
Honestly T3feri should be banned. It makes for non interactive games.
December 9, 2022 12:51 p.m.
TheOfficialCreator says... #7
I agree. It's very hard to actually interact with Teferi in any meaningful way, except in mirror matches. And with The Wandering Emperor to back him up, it's become a serious issue.
December 9, 2022 12:55 p.m.
I would actually argue that powerful but niche cards like Veil of Summer and Aether Gust is something the format needs more of. They aren't strictly better than other counterparts, but give some "narrow" hate that can be quite powerful in the right matches. We need more hate-cards in the format which are relevant in this manner. Wedge hate cards like this are great, and it's a shame that they aren't all at the same power level.
Cards like Devout Decree, Celestial Purge, Noxious Grasp, Deathmark, Fry, and Rending Volley just aren't powerful enough. White does get some decent creatures that fit the mold like Auriok Champion and Sanctifier en-Vec but those require a little more than a slight splash.
So in conclusion, rather than argue that Veil of Summer (a fixed Autumn's Veil) is too powerful, I would argue that the counterparts from other colors are just too weak, being outclassed by normal removal options.
We need more narrow cards that fit into what the color wants to do, and hate against what its enemy colors want to do better. For example, maybe some kind of Searing Blaze type of effect (deals with creatures and goes face) for against , and a effect against that punishes them for swarming and is a form of removal.
December 9, 2022 6:49 p.m.
wallisface says... #9
Speaking just from a modern perspective, Veil is a perfectly fine card and doesn’t need defending - there is no chance it’s even in the top20 most obnoxious cards in the format.
I find it very funny that Blue players think its fine to interact with all their opponents spells, but then get salty when their opponent does some interaction of their own.
Cards like this exist as sideboard options to deal with Control and/or Hand Disruption (provided the hand-disruption deck isn’t going first). Every kind of card should have some way of being de-railed, and this is just the best way of dealing with those strategies in Green.
I think if this card were printed a longer time back it would be accepted as the “norm”. People seem irritated by it only because its a new option to deal with cards that previously had no-real sideboard-hate.
December 10, 2022 4:30 a.m.
TheOfficialCreator says... #10
wallisface are you saying blue players need to be Canceled? Cuz I'm totally up for that ;D
December 10, 2022 8:09 a.m.
Dead_Blue_ says... #11
Im a Blue player but playing against Blue I’ve always preferred Mistcutter Hydra. It forces them to have an answer in hand
TheOfficialCreator says... #2
I agree. Veil of Summer, in the stead of Allosaurus Shepherd, gives green some leverage in the Modern format. I think it's an excellent sideboard option, but not necessarily too overpowered, especially for Modern. For now I would be sad to see it go, as someone who runs a lot of green decks u.u
December 9, 2022 11:09 a.m.