How many 3-card infinite combos involve Breya?
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Posted on Dec. 11, 2016, 10:34 a.m. by MagicalHacker
If one were to make a Breya, Etherium Shaper with all the possible 3-card combos involving her, how many cards would that be?
Most of us know about the Eldrazi Displacer combos and Nim Deathmantle combos, but just in case you dont, here is the explanation for each group:
Eldrazi Displacer can flicker Breya, Etherium Shaper if you can use the thopters she makes to make 4 or more colorless mana, which can be done with Mana Echoes, Ashnod's Altar, or Krark-Clan Ironworks. With the resulting infinite colorless, you can then use it to make infinite thopters, and then use the infinite mana and thopters to deal infinite damage to each player with her ability.
Similarly, you can use Ashnod's Altar and Krark-Clan Ironworks to make 4 mana from the two thopters that Breya makes, so that when you sacrifice Breya, you can bring her back from the graveyard with Nim Deathmantle. With the resulting infinite mana, you can then make infinite thopters, then use those two to deal infinite damage to each player. This also works with Mana Echoes because Breya can sacrifice herself to her own ability.
So if you noticed a pattern, great, cause now you can see that if you can make infinite colored mana with two cards, you can achieve the same result because you can cast Breya to retrigger her ETB ability, and then deal infinite damage, so Palinchron/Great Whale/Peregrine Drake + Deadeye Navigator (or Phantasmal Image if with Deadeye Navigator) deserves to be in the deck just as much as the previously mentioned cards.
But! What else? Remember it needs to only be 2-card combos in Breya's colors that make infinite colored mana, unless a card in the combo can also retrigger Breya's ETB ability.
Lilbrudder says... #3
Auriok Salvagers + Lion's Eye Diamond
Worldgorger Dragon + Animate Dead or Necromancy or Dance of the Dead: This technically requires some set up, such as a way to break the cycle (ex. creature in a graveyard or Chain of Vapor) and permanents that tap for all of her colors (ex. command tower) if Breya is not in play already.
December 11, 2016 11:40 a.m.
Worldgorger Dragon and Animate Dead doesn't need something to break the cycle as long as Breya is in play. Simply sac her thopters on response to ETB and dome the table with the infinite mana generated. Now if someone is able to nuke her in response then you will need something else to target. Although having Shimmer Myr, Vedalken Orrery, Leyline of Anticipation means you could flash her in-between triggers if that happens.
December 11, 2016 12:46 p.m.
MagicalHacker says... #5
Flagellum, the Grand Architect combos fit perfectly! Thanks!
In the last situation where you said Breya is killed im response to casting Animate Dead, you are actually still fine if you let Breya go to the graveyard since you can allow Animate Dead to target her instead of Worldgorger Dragon after you have made enough mana. So literally, the only way it won't work is literally if you have no other creatures in the graveyard and Breya is in the command zone/hand.
Lilbrudder, the Auriok Salvagers combo and the Worldgorger Dragon combos are perfect! Thanks!
December 11, 2016 1:19 p.m.
You right! Another combo is Thopter Foundry, Sword of the Meek and Krark-Clan Ironworks/Ashnod's Altar. Infinite mana. Should note that the thopters made by Thopter Foundry are also blue and can be tapped for mana via Grand Architect. Btw Panharmonicon can also be useful.
December 11, 2016 2:27 p.m.
MagicalHacker says... #7
Flagellum, well, I am willing to be that there are so many 3-card combos with Breya and tutors and cards that draw more cards that there is no reason to resort to 4-card combos, idk that any of those cards are necessary actually.
December 11, 2016 2:46 p.m.
My advice: get yourself some Illusionist's Bracers and Training Grounds. I run into infinite combos with these cards I didn't even consider when putting them in my deck.
You can go infinite with Aphetto Alchemist or Fatestitcher, bracers and any mana rock. Filigree Sages and Training Grounds or Bracers go infinite with Gilded Lotus too. Pili-Pala can go infinite with both the Bracers and training grounds and something like Opposition out. Honestly the list goes on and on. A lot of the combos involve untap shenanigans so you could always win via Laboratory Maniac + Mesmeric Orb too, just up to you.
December 11, 2016 2:47 p.m.
It's redundancy. I also run Reckless Fireweaver and Disciple of the Vault in case Breya gets hated too much. People are well aware of the combos involved with Breya.
Time Sieve + Thopter Assembly: infinite turns.
December 11, 2016 6:26 p.m.
Ashnod's Altar + Cathodion + Eldrazi Displacer nets infinite mana and blinks. :) Altar can be substituted for KCI, of course.
December 15, 2016 2:28 p.m.
Lilbrudder that'd be infinite colorless mana, which you could use into Displacer, but that'd make it a 4-card combo.
December 15, 2016 2:36 p.m.
Lilbrudder says... #14
Its already a 4 card combo because you need a target to blink endlessly. If you had those cards and Breya you would not need displacer because you could get the effect of infinite etbs with deathmantle. Moreover Breya doesnt need cathodon at all since she serves the same function. I think I am confused and will go back to work
December 15, 2016 2:44 p.m.
Panharmonicon+Phyrexian Altar+breya is infinite mana of any color.
December 15, 2016 11:45 p.m.
Sorry for the triple post but if you add Nim Deathmantle that combo I mentioned earlier works.
December 15, 2016 11:50 p.m.
Suprised no one's mentioned Isochron Scepter + Dramatic reversal , goes infinite with a lot of things.
Mana Echoes + Mycosynth Lattice goes infinite pretty quick with breya as well.
Flagellum says... #2
Grand Architect + Pili-Pala : infinite colored mana. Sac and recast Breya. Got a turn 4 win with this.
Grand Architect + Nim Deathmantle : breya's thopters are blue. Infinite mana and thopters/Breya damage
December 11, 2016 10:41 a.m.