Zur the Enchanter: Lessons Learned

Commander / EDH Forkbeard

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Goodbye, Zur. Hello...Zur? —Jan. 10, 2023

Welp, after 14 years of piloting Zur the Enchanter - my very first EDH deck - I've decided to dismantle it for parts. If I'm honest, it just became unappealing to play. I tricked myself into thinking it was a swiss army knife toolbox brew, but in reality I tried to do the same things every game: cast Zur, ensure Zur survives via counterspells, slowly amass protection for Zur, swing/control the board ftw. I rarely play this deck anymore as the paths to victory felt linear and unexciting + I grew weary of searching & shuffling every. damn. turn. I'm going to keep this list up in it's current iteration for reference, but I will be using the majority of the spicy lands and $$$ cards in a new deck. What is the new deck you ask? None other than Zur, Eternal Schemer. So yeah. Just building another Zur deck, but different.

I've swithered on this decision for a while. I'm nostalgic for this deck because it's my first Commander brew & I have a lot of expensive cards in here that seemed specific to Zur the Enchanter. Because of this I wanted to build another Esper enchantment based deck but couldn't decide on a general. After talking this conundrum through with a friend, he reminded me that new Zur exists and that my land base + many of my current enchantments would slot nicely into an Eternal Schemer build. The neat little bonus is that it's still Zur, so my personal lore is that my initial Zur deck has simply evolved into something different. Something more fun. I'm liberated and excited to try it out.

Thank you to everyone who provided their insights into this deck here over the years, you're all a bunch of MTG heroes.

jfly517 says... #1

I have a similar deck, might wanna add in Eidolon of Rhetoric or an Aegis of the Gods

October 18, 2017 4:11 p.m.

Forkbeard says... #2

I actually ran Aegis of the Gods in here and ended up swapping it out. In my experience it didn't really matter if I was targeted, the real threat is people targeting Zur. With that in mind I'd rather have a toolbox of protection for him instead and Eidolon of Rhetoric kind of fits that bill - I definitely like the control aspect and it fits into my lock down strategy. Thanks for the suggestions jfly517, I appreciate it!

October 21, 2017 4:46 p.m.

Limo says... #3

+1 from me. I don't know if you want any defensive combos, but I have a Zur deck Zur Voltron, To win against five. that has 2 different no damage combos. Check it out and if you Like it upvote!

April 19, 2018 12:56 p.m.

Forkbeard says... #4

Hey Limo, I finally checked out your Zur build. Very different & cool choices in there, nice work!

August 19, 2018 9:05 p.m.

Pure_Insanity says... #5

I also built Zur in a control shell with Thopter Combo as my win con. It was super fun but drew hate like crazy. I can't recommend Vanishing highly enough as a protection piece. Nothing falls off of Zur and can be used in a pinch to protect everything attached to him.

November 12, 2019 7:59 p.m.

Forkbeard says... #6

You're right, it's a classic Zur protection staple and I played it in here for years. I ended up swapping it out at some point but don't really recall why! Likely in favour of adding a counterspell or 2 + I have ample protection options in here already. Really like the card though, phasing was such a weird mechanic.

November 16, 2019 9:10 p.m.

The only thing I'd suggest is swapping out the swiftfoot boots for Curator's Ward I use it in my Zur/Haakon knights tribal deck and it works wonders. Protects Zur as well as the boots, gets tutored for, and draws you cards if they manage to boardwipe or remove him somehow.

January 17, 2020 7:19 p.m.

Forkbeard says... #8

Ooh! I've never seen Curator's Ward before, that's an excellent suggestion Aeolus-Wind-King. I'll be making that exact swap, cheers.

January 18, 2020 2:40 p.m.

Thunderlips13 says... #9

Library of Leng is great with Solitary Confinement you get to pitch cards you want to tutor back in library and get unlimited hand size. Then you can use Empyrial Armor and swing with lethal. I JUST switched to the shimmer storm version of Zur. Its nasty

February 3, 2020 9:52 p.m.

Forkbeard says... #10

Interesting! I hadn't considered Library of Leng before - I definitely like that interaction with Solitary Confinement coupled with the 'no max hand size' Thought Vessel style redundancy. I just replaced Empyrial Armor to make way for All That Glitters, but this has me thinking that I should possibly put it back, perhaps in place of Battle Mastery.

Cool that you went down the shimmer storm route. This deck is mean enough + I don't think my friends would forgive me if I went down the competitive Zur path, heh.

February 8, 2020 6:04 p.m.

MajordomoTom says... #11

just recommending one card: Triclopean Sight.

attack, slap that puppy on him, and then Stasis and lose all your friends.

June 18, 2020 12:49 a.m.

Forkbeard says... #12

MajordomoTom - yep, I'm into that rudeness. I think I'll take out Battle Mastery to make room for this. Good suggestion, thanks!

June 18, 2020 2:17 p.m.

MajordomoTom says... #13

As you can tell, I'm tuning a build to make Zur a monster.

That's a key card - giving him vigilance, even on the turn he's attacking, so that your pants aren't down until your next turn.

June 18, 2020 7:21 p.m.

Baclash says... #14

Do you have anywhere explaining how to play the deck?

July 8, 2020 9:48 a.m.

MajordomoTom says... #15

get Zur out attack with him, slap on Triclopean Sight attack with him, slap out Stasis attack with him, slap out Eidolon of Rhetoric

have in hand Darksteel Mutation and Trapped in the Tower and Frogify and Encrust to put on the other player's commander

find new friends

July 9, 2020 1:45 p.m.

Forkbeard says... #16

MajordomoTom, lol.

Baclash - I don't have a deck guide written, but I'll talk a bit about it here.

What keeps this deck interesting is the toolbox factor. Generally you want Zur on the table and then you simply grab the tools required at the time. If there's no immediate threats, I tend to get all of my protection pieces in place first, e.g. Diplomatic Immunity, Greater Auramancy & whatever other protection pieces I may need/want (hexproof, indestructibility etc.). From there you conquer by either controlling the table into submission or throwing auras on Zur for commander damage slaps. I'm not running a competitive insta-win build by design, but there are some decent card pairings that help steer Zur to victory (e.g. Necropotence + Solitary Confinement . Probably not the in depth guide you seek, but if you look at the card categories I've listed you'll start to get a picture of what this deck is capable of.

July 9, 2020 3:17 p.m.

MajordomoTom says... #17

yeah, I'm not one of those "infinite loop" builders, either.

Just 21, straight to the face. Commander damage, just take it.

And if you somehow protect yourself from losing life, I'll make it infect tokens instead.

Whatever it takes, Zur can deliver it.

July 12, 2020 12:54 a.m.

MajordomoTom says... #18

Glistening Oil

enough said.

July 12, 2020 12:56 a.m.

Forkbeard says... #19

Ha, yeah. I used to run Phyresis in here too. That was popular.

July 12, 2020 1:26 p.m.

Drakonas says... #20

I came across a recent fact about how cumulative upkeep works that makes Zur even nastier... almost too nasty.

Cumulative upkeep states "At the beginning of your upkeep, put an age counter on this permanent, then sacrifice it unless you pay its upkeep cost for each age counter on it."

Enter Solemnity, which is Zur pullable. If you stop the age counter from being placed, you never have to pay the upkeep cost...

Thus, Tidal Control and Inner Sanctum become super mean. Also, Energy Storm is an option, and you can use Reconnaissance to deal with untapping as well.

October 21, 2022 9:39 a.m.