Necronomicon | Teysa Karlov | Primer
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New Aristocrat Leaked | Commander Legends —Oct. 16, 2020
In a recent leak found here, several new Commander Legends cards were spoiled. The one I'm most excited about is the new BW aristocrat commander.
The image is blurry, but apparently people have already deciphered her. She reads:
Thalisse, Dignified Medium 3WB
Legendary Creature — Human Cleric (R)
At the beginning of your end step, create X 1/1 white Spirit creature tokens with flying, where X is the number of tokens that you've sacrificed this turn.
3/4
She's a new token-centric aristocrat, and a powerful one at that. Replenishing your tokens at the end of each turn, I imagine her deck can make a ton of value over time. In terms of raw value-per-turn, Thalisse probably has Teysa beat, but not in terms of resilience. Teysa's deck is death trigger-centric, so it's naturally more resilient and also doesn't rely on the commander as much. I imagine the Thalisse deck is not nearly as powerful when Thalisse is repeatedly targeted. Because Thalisse wants more tokens than Teysa, I probably won't be including Thalisse in the Teysa deck. However, I will be making a seperate token-based Thalisse deck with Teysa included. This also opens up the likely possibility that more aristocrats will come with Commander Legends, as if there weren't enough reasons to be hyped already.
sub780lime says... #2
For Austere Command, the only thing I can think is to drop one of your sac outlets (from 11 to 10). Your current control package seems hard to trim from, especially since your targeting removal is designed to hit any permanent
July 31, 2020 6:41 p.m.
sub780lime I haven't had many problems with Reflecting Pool or Exotic Orchard's consistency, so I prefer them over the forced life loss from City of Brass and Mana Confluence. In some testing I've done with these painlands, there were instances where the life loss mattered, especially when it came to low-life razaketh/necropotence usage. Ultimately, it doesn't matter much, and I would understand swapping them based on preference. In playgroups that rarely play white and/or black, orchard is bad, and reflecting pool gets worse the less lands we have. For me, they've performed better than the painlands on average.
In terms of Austere Command, everything's a bit hard to trim from. For the sac outlets, unfortunately 5 of them are inconsistent (High Market, Victimize, etc.), and one of them is 8 mana. Additionally, the inconsistent ones are in the deck for reasons other than being sac outlets. The cards I'm considering the most are Victimize, Phyrexian Reclamation, and Living Death, but I'm still not sure I'd want austere command instead of any one of these cards.
Thanks for the input!
August 3, 2020 6:33 a.m.
esperdeathblade says... #4
Any new addition from Zendikar Rising? I'm thinking about to add at least the new Brightclimb Pathway Flip, could be fine in our manabase as it enter untapped.
October 9, 2020 4:26 a.m.
sub780lime says... #5
esperdeathblade, that's what I was thinking for my own Teysa deck. Not like the basic land volume comes into play enough for it to be an issue.
October 9, 2020 8:40 p.m.
esperdeathblade Brightclimb Pathway Flip definitely makes the cut over a swamp. I could see an argument for not running it since the manabase is already good, and I may want 3 full triggers off Land Tax. Getting two lands instead of three off tax isn't the end of the world though. Otherwise, Zendikar Rising was quite underwhelming for Teysa due to the lack of aristocrat-style cards. I am excited for Commander Legends though, which is fast approaching.
sub780lime says... #1
For Reflecting Pool/Exotic Orchard are you avoiding the life loss for the more consistent City of Brass/Mana Confluence?
July 31, 2020 6:30 p.m.